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Is He/it Um To Male?

Posted by: Joshua House on 05/19/2013 - 9:52 PM

I just posted a series of images featuring the Jacksonville World War (one) monument. The man/angel/being is nude, winged, but does not have a penis persay, simply a bulge. I didn't safe filter them, as I don't see it as a problem, but was wondering/worried about others thoughts.

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Posted by: Lynn Palmer on 05/19/2013 - 9:56 PM

It looks pretty safe to me. I wouldn't filter it.


Posted by: Viktor Savchenko on 05/19/2013 - 10:14 PM

It is too dark to see what's going on. Maybe some sort of brand name (DG for example) woman purse with Iphone inside:)
The legs are definitely woman legs...on high sexy heels


Posted by: Joshua House on 05/19/2013 - 10:28 PM

The whole androgynous shape of the statue has been a conversation point about the piece since it was first unveiled. Reportedly it was modeled for by a 6'3 man however.


Posted by: Dean Harte on 05/19/2013 - 11:01 PM

In traditional lore, angels are genderless so maybe that's what is being depicted here. It could have also been cold in the pool.


Posted by: Fran Riley on 05/20/2013 - 12:03 AM

There's a large amount of images on FAA that have no safe filter on that are way more revealing then this public? statue. I think it's fine, no worries.


Posted by: Chaline Ouellet on 05/20/2013 - 1:30 AM

Agree that it's not a problem, no need of a safe filter.


Posted by: Regina Valluzzi on 05/20/2013 - 10:48 AM

The statue is already in the public, right?


Posted by: H Drew on 05/20/2013 - 10:58 AM

I live in Jacksonville and I have some clay and several old brass fixtures that can be melted down. would you like me to go fix that bronze? would you like him to be happy, sad or indifferent?


Posted by: Ed Meredith on 05/20/2013 - 11:50 AM

To much attention is often payed to genitalia and not enough to the aesthetics, narrative and message of a piece of art work... such as this winged figure of a youth rising valiantly and victoriously out of and above the madness of World War One and the turmoil produced by humankind's passions.

Some information about the sculpture:

Unveiled on Christmas Day, 1924
Surrounded by a fountain, Winged Victory memorializes the 1,200 soldiers from Florida who made the supreme sacrifice during the First World War. Two little girls unveiled the monument: Mary B. Burroughs was the niece of Edward Cantey DeSaussurre, killed in the Argonne Forest, and Mary Danto Bedell was the niece of Miss Bessie Gale, a YMCA worker who died on duty near Bordeaux, France. A St. Augustine sculptor, C. Adrian Pillars, began work on the statue in 1922. He drew inspiration from a sentimental war poem by soldier-poet Allan Seeger, a young New York native who enlisted in the French Foreign Legion and lost his life in WWI.

In spite of the statue's obvious maleness, gossip claimed that a female had posed for most of it. Other rumors insisted that the model had been a driver for General John J. Pershing, the commander-in-chief of the American Expeditionary Force during WWI. Actually, the figure was based on the likeness of a 16-year-old high school football end from St. Augustine, Percy Reginald Palethorpe, Jr. His father, who hailed from England, was a retired busker, someone who sings, dances, or plays music in public, usually for donations. Percy's mother was born in Kentucky, as was he. The 6'3'', 180 pound boy received $1 per hour for posing for Winged Victory, or about $10 in today's money. Percy didn't attend the unveiling. (Six years later, according to the 1930 census, he still lived in St. Augustine and worked as an engineer on a steam locomotive. He died in St. Johns County in 1965.)


Posted by: Joshua House on 05/20/2013 - 11:58 AM

Interestingly, the site you're quoting there from is the only one I've seen that calls the piece "Winged Victory". Everything else, as well as the plaque that goes with the piece, calls it "Life".


Posted by: H Drew on 05/20/2013 - 2:32 PM

Here is a wiki artical about the park it is at:


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