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Rosemary Williams

1 Year Ago

Key Word Searches

I am trying to add more keywords to my images. For this fence photograph I added several keywords today, hit submit, and then searched for photographs using some of the new keywords. It doesn't show up. Some keywords are two word combinations. Is there something I'm not doing correctely? A search for "curving fence" brings up just a few photographs and when mine didn't show up I wondered what I might have done wrong. Thanks.

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Michael Porchik

1 Year Ago

I'm not positive, but there may be a timed process that updates the search engine on the site. I modified the image below to include Kennedy Covered Bridge yesterday and didn't see it in the results right away. Checked this morning and I can see the image.

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It does say somewhere on the site, that changes to keywords and such, take up to 24 hours to populate through. Check back tomorrow.

 

Margaret Saheed

1 Year Ago

Here in Melbourne, Australia, if I upload new images or change keywords during the day, the keywords will probably appear within an hour or sooner.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

The search used to update once a day at some point in the middle of the night, (NYC standard time) but it usually does it more often now. At the longest it should take less than 24 hours and you will see it.

 

Rich Franco

1 Year Ago

Rosemary,

Still on the first few cups of coffe and not a great night, with storms and such, but here's a few more keywords, country fence, old wooden fence, rail fence,split rail fence, lichen fence,property line fence, abandoned field fence, wild grasses,

Rich

 

Janine Riley

1 Year Ago

I love this picture.

I haven't gone through your key words really, but here's a few.

Rural,rustic,countryside,pasture,pastoral,weathered and worn,split rail,nostalgic,........

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

BTW, the search updated and it is there now under "curving fence."

 

Rosemary Williams

1 Year Ago

Thanks everyone! I guess I missed the part about delays but I found it now too under curving fence. And thanks for all the keyword suggestions. My mind goes blank when it comes to keywords. I'll have to update them tonight.

 

Vivian ANDERSON

1 Year Ago

Just my two-cents, about keywords.........lately I've noticed that our uploads get placed into different searches than the five keywords we give first.........I think? those five are what determines where one's work shows up. Am pointing this out, especially about your keywords, the first of which is "landscape photos" - at which search it doesn't turn up...whereas the search you landed in first was not in your first five tags............lesson being..........from now on, in my experience anyway, I'm really careful which tags I use in the first five, and, I always include my name.............just fyi...............somehow faa put you into 'curving fence' search/tag........even though you don't use that....

 

Rich Franco

1 Year Ago

Ms. V.,

How did you find this out? We need to get some confirmation of this, if this is true. I've never tried prioritizing my words, 'cause the computer doesn't either, or so I thought!

Rich

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Official FAA response is that is not true and there is no priority put on where the keywords are.

Unofficial JC research on internal SEO of keywording indicates there is no priority on where the keyword is placed on the list. What DOES make a difference is getting the searched for phrase verbatim. eg. black and white football between the comas will place better than black and white, football with the coma between them IF the search is done for black and white football. Oh, and to take that a step further, "black and white football" would come above "football black and white" depending on how it is written.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Example, seagulls, results ~6200

Placement on search, Five

Placement of seagulls on keyword list? 30ish?

Keywords:

beach, sand, surf, sunrise, sunset, bird, sea, atlantic, ocean, the seagull, gull, pink, blue, topsail, wrightsville, wilmington, nc, north, outer banks, wrightsville beach, new hanover county, seascape, coastal, coast, east coast, jones, wilmington north carolina, wilmington nc, salt water, seagulls, bird, birds, nature, outdoors, north carolina, nc, obx, outer banks, seagull,sea gull, sea gulls

 

Vivian ANDERSON

1 Year Ago

My impression from this post by Abbie a while ago, is.......the first five you use are shown directly under your picture; the others you use, go directly under Comments.....
and I really think positively that those first ones get you into those searches.........many a time I've searched using the tags below the Comments, and never find my work at those tags.......could be just me..........but, now I'm careful about the first five, as per::::::::::: "your first go under the image" etc.....below........



Abbie Shores

1. Q: I now see "Tags" and "Additional Tags" listed under my images on their product pages. However, when I add tags, there's one box only. What is separating the two boxes? (My assumption is that after 500 characters, the rest of the tags get placed in "additional".) Am I right or wrong?

A: There are not two boxes. Just add your 500 characters. Your first go under the image, the rest go at the bottom of the page out of the way up to 200 and then the rest are hidden (still there but hidden) It is just how they are laid out on the page. Nothing special about them at all. They are just your keywords in different areas "

PS..........I would like to add here, that I am truly thrilled and amazed at the improvement experienced on new uploads..........even with the 12-24 hr delay necessary for indexing..........my new uploads are landing immediately into faa search.........even on 'cached' pages that , ahem, don't change images for time immemorial,lol...........THANK YOU, FAA ! .....Great improvement.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Which, actually matches my answer, there is nothing special about any of them as they are all keywords and they all work in the search.

Search for Wilmington and the same image that is #5 in seagulls is #1 even though Wilmington is 17 words back. Now, search for beach, which is the first word and good luck finding it at all because there are just too many great selling beach images. The very last word, or in this case phrase, in the list is sea gulls and the image is 1 o 2400.

Which of course brings up a whole different subject. I you are really relying on keyword placement to bring in sales then you need to expand upon how you are going about it. Keywords are important but there are far better ways to bring in sales than keyword placement.

 

Vivian ANDERSON

1 Year Ago

True........but..........it's basic, imo, that if no other form of being found for some of us, me especially - without using promotion elsewhere - is the faa search, then it is paramount for my keyword to work FOR me.
Of the five I used on my image here, only the first three get me into search for those tags, the fourth "transparent' is full of three peoples' mostly art, is cache, and not updated to show my use of that tag, transparent., or nursery..... ....which are ignored, as 'secondary' in importance to our search system - all of which baffles me , lol. Just saying.....Am impressed with the improvements in indexing and placement.........

page 1, faa search Bubbles, and bubbly ........

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The keywords directly under it::::

Tags: bubbles art paintings, vivian anderson paintings, bubbly paintings, nursery paintings, transparent paintings, bubbles art canvas prints, vivian anderson canvas prints, bubbly canvas prints, nursery canvas prints, transparent canvas prints

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Which image Vivian? And what is the keyword list?

Edit, ALL of those words have entirely too many images with way to many variables to test any kind of theory on keywords.

 

Vivian ANDERSON

1 Year Ago

JC, thanks,.,,,,,,,,,,answered you before you asked, lol........see below.........

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Sell Art Online

Again, you will not find this image anywhere near the top with the first five keywords. You will with many of the keywords in the back of the list.

 

Diane McDougall

1 Year Ago

Can someone here tell me how to upgrade? I have clicked on everything and can't seem to find a anything that will take money:(

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

I believe it is behind the scenes, then premium features and I think there is an option to activate the premium features there.

 

Vivian ANDERSON

1 Year Ago

LOL.............pure logic at work there, JC......point taken.....I defer ........but, I do research now, before uploading, all on my own criteria for choices, to try to find un-busy pages with a keyword I need, just to help me be early in the search for that tag.........so far, so good..........no complaints from me...........I feel better if I'm on a search page 'early' because I'm not so sure visitors go much past 10 pages at a tag, at most..........just saying...........

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Now THAT is good business Vivian.

That is how I get most of my sales as I do not market all that much. I would actually go so far as to say most don't look past three pages.

 

Diane McDougall

1 Year Ago

Thank You JC!!!!! That did it:) Sorry to interrupt.

 

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