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Loree Johnson

1 Year Ago

Let's Talk About Creativity

Sometimes this forum is just so depressing. It seems every time I log on here, about 80% of the threads are about why you can't sell on this site. The search engine is stacked against you, the "art world" is stacked against you, the sheer number of images makes it impossible to be seen, everyone has a camera, there's nothing out there that hasn't been done already, you need better gear, buyers don't buy "fine art" online, the only people who sell are those who rip off other people's copyrights, yada, yada, yada.

The world has changed. It's still changing. Those who find a way to creatively adapt as things change, will succeed. Those who spend their time figuring out why it will never work, will not. This site is filled with creativity in art, but it seems sadly lacking in creativity in sales and marketing. I don't have the answers, but I'm pretty sure people would rather buy something from Winnie the Pooh than from Eeyore.

Here's a great inspirational address that illustrates what I'm talking about:

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Christi Kraft

1 Year Ago

Love this speech. :)

 

Roseann Caputo

1 Year Ago

Love his books, too.

 

Mark Tisdale

1 Year Ago

Your Pooh vs Eeyore comment echoes my own thoughts and although I've heard his speech before, it should be shared often! Well said, Loree!

 

See My Photos

1 Year Ago

I don't want whatever I want. Nobody does. Not really. What kind of fun would it be if I just got everything I ever wanted just like that, and it didn't mean anything? What then?
― Neil Gaiman, Coraline

 

Loree Johnson

1 Year Ago

Craig, that's a great quote. Thanks for sharing it.

 

Shasta Eone

1 Year Ago



Every awake moment, we are creating .... something ...


I will ---I won't

I can -- I can't

I should -- I shouldn't

I have -- I haven't

I know --- I don't know

I need --- I want

I am --- I am not


... through the freedom and power of our thought.


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Rebecca Glaze

1 Year Ago

Thank you Loree for sharing this speech! It should be required viewing for any artist. Priceless advice!

 

Ricardo De Almeida

1 Year Ago

Nice OP.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

:o)

 

David Lane

1 Year Ago

Very good thread. You create by your very existence.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

It really comes down to having the right equipment you know, if ONLY I had a Canon 5D MKIII and L glass of every flavor I could create images like this and sell sell sell.

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Loree Johnson

1 Year Ago

Happy to see this thread resurrected. :-) I figured no one wanted to talk about the positive, judging by the popularity of the negative, lol.

So, anyone want to brainstorm creative marketing with me? I have this idea that one of my target markets are people who have lived in the areas I shoot (mostly northern California, southern Oregon). These areas are disproportionately rural and economically depressed. They are also filled with natural beauty. My theory is that some people who have lived here have reluctantly moved elsewhere in order to pursue better financial opportunities, yet they are "homesick" for the scenery. My dilemma is how to find them and make sure they see my images.

Anyone else have creative marketing ideas that could use some brainstorming/input from the community?

 

How about looking for Facebook groups...example - the county and some of the surrounding county's I live in have Facebook group called old photos of Montgomery county. My town also has a Facebook page with current local info. Maybe some of the schools from those areas have alumni groups online as well! All of these might be places to find people from those areas.

 

Mel Steinhauer

1 Year Ago

Thanks Loree ! Yes, it's always nice to see some positive discussions here. He makes a lot of sense and it was an inspirational speech.

Here at FAA we all have 24/7 access to everyone in the world with a computer and internet access. That means if we " Make Good Art " it is only a matter of time until we are discovered and have regular or frequent sales, as well as other opportunities and recognition.

So with that in mind... quite frequently when I meet someone and they ask what I do - I tell them that I am a " World-Famous Photographer ". That gets their attention and they respond with looks of disbelief or remark of utter surprise.

As I hand them my business card with my link to http://www.ScenesFromFarAndNear.com I then tell them that whatever I am currently wearing is my disguise and proudly state that " Unfortunately most people do not know that I am a World Famous Photographer - YET. "

Like he said in the video - " Make Good Art " !

 

Rosemary Williams

1 Year Ago

Enjoyed the speech, thanks! But I really loved the first paragraph of your post about the depressive nature of many of the forums because now I know I am not alone! THANK YOU!

 

See My Photos

1 Year Ago

Loree, the only thing I can think of is a blog of sorts reflecting homesickness through your images. For example: Each week pick a particular location and write a blog about how it used to be vs how it is to today (economically) with a few photos and links to reflect upon. Maybe through the magic of Google someone wanting to remember or find out about that particular community will find it. Or as it with most blogs it may just take off.

 

Janine Riley

1 Year Ago

Oh, thank you thank you ......................

Like the plague........I'm afraid it's contagious. Gloom & Doom.

Great thread, I like Craig's idea, & maybe a Pinterest board of those particular areas

All links lead back to Rome.

 

From the Bette Davis play, "Old Acquaintance"

"There is a certain ecstasy in wanting what you cannot have"...............

 

Carmen Hathaway

1 Year Ago

Echoing all the positivity here -- thanks for the upbeat mode, Loree -- sometimes it seems it's easier to fall than climb.

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Mary Bedy

1 Year Ago

Also, what JC said - "if only I had a better/more expensive camera". The only image I've sold here three times is something I took with a point and shoot. It's not the equipment, it's the image. And I know what you mean, Loree - I think most people who complain about lack of sales, yada, yada, are expecting to be "discovered" the minute they put their stuff on line. You just have to keep at it. I'm enjoying the journey whatever happens and trying to keep improving.

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Two of my five best sellers are p.s. shots and the one I posted here is done with my droid.

 

Loree Johnson

1 Year Ago

One of my best sellers, and the first print I ever sold was shot with my D60. The entry level camera I had when I was first learning photography.

Thanks for the suggestions Janine, Craig, and PADS. I had thought of a few of them already, but you have added to my list of things to try. I appreciate it!

 

Donna Proctor

1 Year Ago

@ Loree,

I just watched the video - I've never seen it. I loved it and him. I feel so much better after having seen it... I feel so much better about making my mistakes and my failures.
Good or bad, they're mine!

Make good art! :) When I heard that it just stuck ... When he said - "this is really great, you should enjoy it!" The light bulb went off over my head because he reminded me - that is exactly the main reason why I no longer sell any of my original paintings that I paint for me. I decided a few years ago that *I* want to enjoy them and I do since they hang on my walls in my home - which is the only place where I can truly enjoy them.

Thanks for the video... it really set the tone for the rest of my day!

--Donna Proctor

 

Loree Johnson

1 Year Ago

@Donna,

So glad Neil's words resonated with you. They did with me, too.

Nobody else has marketing ideas they want to bounce off the rest of us? I feel like I'm hogging all the good suggestions, lol.

 

Sheena Pike

1 Year Ago

Loree Great thread...well said....great message........all around GREAT! Thanks for this......as for marketing I am still figuring that out, but what I have learned thus far

Find a way to stand out...pay attention to what your followers and customers seem to like and sell and make more of that........be interactive.....share works in progress.....be social and involved....put yourself "out there" ... ......stop whining and start doing.....establish your reputation and identity.... challenge yourself....be memorable.......(these are just my opinion and what I have learned....doesn't mean I know what I'm talking about)

 

Kathi Shotwell

1 Year Ago

Love it!

Mel, love your chronologically challenged thinking... :D

"...if you cannot be wise, pretend to be someone who is wise and then just behave like they would..."

 

Tony Christou

1 Year Ago

This was truly inspirational. I feel very uplifted by that video :)

 

Gregory Scott

1 Year Ago

Niel Gaiman is one of my favorite authors. He has a gift of simplicity, often enhanced by repetition. It will do. It is enough for the purpose.
And the purpose is pleasure in expression! My favorite book of his is a little child's book called "The Graveyard Book". Sweetly macabre. The ghouls are loathsome and funny, the ghosts very warm and human, the villains most foul, and the protagonist full of potential and determination. The vampire and the werewolf and the lady death are wonderful characters, too. It's a gem.

 

Angie Vogel

1 Year Ago

Loree, thank you very much for sharing that speech! It was wonderful! :)

 

Kathi Shotwell

1 Year Ago

Gregory! I just now went to check out Neil Gaiman's twitter profile (being the studious tweepette in training) and I found this tweet by him from earlier today...

Neil Gaiman ‏@neilhimself 3h
"My book THE GRAVEYARD BOOK is back on the NYT Bestseller list at #5. It is also waiting for you FREE (read by me) at
http://www.mousecircus.com/videotour.aspx"

It's 45 minutes long... going to refill my cup and find somewhere to put my feet up...

Never heard of him, but I think I'm gonna love him too.

 

Kathi Shotwell

1 Year Ago

OK well it's just chapter 1 that's 45 minutes. It was fabulous. I felt inspired to sketch as I listened. :)

 

Ronald Walker

1 Year Ago

I have been on this site for a very long time. Love it when a work sales but my main goal is to create art that expresses my view of life. I have not been very active on this site for the last year because I felt a big shift from art issues to marketing. Glad to see you bring up the issue.

 

Ana Belle

1 Year Ago

i love what he said... "The moment that you feel, just possibly, you're walking down the street naked exposing too much of your heart and of your mind, and what exist on the inside, showing too much of yourself, that's the moment you maybe starting to get it right." - Neil Gaiman

and


Go ahead make mistakes, make interesting mistakes. Make good art. - Neil Gaiman

i honestly do not know this guy... but after watching this, i feel inspired. ill check out his works soon.

 

William Norton

1 Year Ago

Go ahead make mistakes, make interesting mistakes. Make good art. - Neil Gaiman

I was thinking (which is usually a mistake in itself) that our mistakes are just works in progress that we gave up on. So this morning I revisited some of my mistakes and finished three of them.

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Enjoy you day

William Norton

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

I finally had the time to sit back and watch the video in its entirety.

Thank you for posting that Loree; it was fantastic.

 

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