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there isn't really anything sad or bad about steampunk, it's an alternate future. people have lots of things that make them smile, i think people like things that either interest them, or put them into another world. but in the end it all depends who you market too. and you need a large selection. which means you always have to make new things. so as i mentioned before, make micro paintings - something the size of an index card made on something smooth. scan them large, sell them large. challenge yourself to make 1 a week or less. you have to try many angles to sell things. like my next batch of things, half of it will be totally different then what i normally upload.
You can't sell off an empty wagon. You can't sell off an empty wagon especially if you are doing art work that is pretty much out of the mainstream.
When I first joined FAA I didn't sell a thing in the first 100 images I loaded. Since then sales have been on a steady incline in direct proportion of the number of uploads.
I have built three Power Seller stores on eBay. This was before they lowered the qualifications of becoming a Power Seller. But none of them sold worth beans until I got to 200 listings and then it was still nothing to speak of, a sale here and there. The magic number was 1000 listings. Once I hit 1000 listings sales took off. Here again it was a direct correlation to the number of listings I added.
At one time I had 30,000 listing on eBay and was the 5th largest store in my category out of of 230,000 people selling in that category. They say they have over 1 million selling in that category now and I think I am number 35 or 40 but they changed the categories now and it is pretty much meaningless because of the way they compute the numbers.
Since I have retired I think I am down to maybe 6-8,000 listings on eBay and sales have dropped accordingly.
It's a number games... plain and simple....
I still think that too many artist are looking for people that buy "art".... I don't think the average person is buying "art" I don't think the average buyer even knows what art is or cares. They are buying for decorating or gifts or because the just like what they see. They do not see "art". The just see what they like.
I use the Korean or Asian starving artist paintings all the time as a example. If you hung 10 great landscape painting on a wall and ten Korean paintings on the wall, with no prices or names showing and asked a hundred people off the street to vote for the piece they would be most likely to buy, I bet the chances are no better than 50/50 that one of the Korean paintings may be the one with the highest number of picks.
I know that ticks a lot of artist off when I say that but it is what it is.
I fell for that too....just what it says...a test group. Well, I tested it, and yup....nada. But as you, I had to try. lol!
I have over 1300 images and sales can be slow at times, but yeah... sales didn't start until I had a few hundred.
Hard to market such a limited selection of 10/12 images, especially seeing that you've been a member since 09/18/2011, perhaps a larger portfolio might help.
It's been a sad truth for my online business -- I've never sold anything from a site where I had fewer than 100 listings. That includes FAA, Etsy, Zazzle, Yessy, and other online venues.
I know it's not true for everyone, but 'number of listings' has been a consistent factor for all my online business. It seems many buyers have been 'spoiled' by shopping at places like Amazon and eBay, where choices are vast.
Now, selling in the real world can be a different story. In the real world, I can usually make at least one sale, if I'm showing just three or four pieces. For me, that's never translated to the web, where numbers are king. :-/
Floyd, I agree, because it is comfortable, easy to classify, they understand it - they can say, "Oh, I know what that is." That's why I say there is some art that is great, but really doesn't belong in most homes, it belongs in a museum. Not many people would want to live with a Basquiat every day, even though it is great art.
Most of the stuff on the sales page is like that, easy to digest, easy to hang in a home, you won't scare the kids or grandma.
I am OK with that, I have stuff in my home like that, too, I just don't want to look at it too long on the sales page because I am afraid I will ruin my eyes.
Thank you, Leah. And I like your Hitchcock and Poe paintings. The hat element is a really cool idea.
Yeah, I know I need to produce more pieces. I hope that somehow I'll have the time and energy to produce enough for a decent-sized gallery, and somehow figure out how to produce salable art that's more user-friendly or something. Whatever that is.
@ Franz, I like Mike being the guardian of the forum as you say it. He has a good eye and is very knowledgeable and helps others.
@ JL, I find if one wants to paint they will find the time. I have one of the most hectic lives around and I hear many artist's locally saying they don't have time to paint or market and complain about it all the time while they are taking time to hang out with their friends, , take weekend drives etc. my point being, I don't do other activities too much because if I have time I am going to paint ,work and promote. I don't socialize too much but maybe 2x a week to go up to my local tap house and have a beer with a few friends. I have made painting my priority but I am also OBSESSED with it and get very depressed if I am not painting. I used to produce about 90 paintings a year but now I am down to about 50. Also don't worry so much about the public, it's about getting into your own magical world and people will either like it or not. But if they do you will know it as long as you include some promoting with it.
guardian why not? mostly it's that you tend to post random images without dialog in threads that have nothing to do with the image. it's just blatant spamming without contributing.
@JL as i said, the doodles your making is art too, post it up and sell it. everything in rocking horse image should be it's own art. each little one should be on it's own. for now to bulk up, make small things, as i said. try to keep it fast and simple. for every 10 small images, make 1 large one if you want. but to bulk up you have to either paint faster, or keep it small and simple.
JL if my art can sell (and it does) yours can too. I really like your Epitaph and Mobile Home paintings but I would never buy them with the title on the bottom. The turtle piece would be great in a nursery so market it as such. Hope that helps!
You have great work J L, you just need to do more. Leah is right you need to make time. If It is your calling it will come. I know it's easier said then done, the reason Leah and I have so many is not only because we make time but we have gotten fast at what we do too (the more you do the better you get). My life has been busy this year too because I am working more since my husband lost his job. I'm down from my numbers last year, (I did 130 originals in 2013) but I am still painting, and have done over 40 so far this year, because I am still painting, even though I can't do it as much. Do it in between things, do it a little at a time, but what ever you do don't stop cold. Keep going!! Does it take you long to finish one piece?
The lack of selling is definitely not a reflection of your art, you do beautiful work, it's just hard to get up there in the search when you don't have a lot in your portfolio. Even as much as I paint, I still need more on here to get my numbers up. It's not an easy climb all the time, especially when you are a traditional artist.
Exactly. So True. Just have to keep on going!! I wish I was painting right now, but today is one day I am forcing myself to get out and socialize. I will be getting plenty of reference photos though. (Always thinking about painting no matter where I'm at lol)
Lol Mike, that's my general feeling for the most part, but some days I feel like I need to get out and be amongst the normal. ;) As far as the digital art goes, it my take you a while but that's where you get to get really creative and unique. That's what sets your work apart.
Today I get to paint since the next 3 days we have appts. my husband is having breakfast now, then I will start Chicken ala King in a crock pot, then I will get him dressed and ready for the day and Voila he is good till lunch which is only a few hours for me to paint, then we'll have leftover sloppy joes (I planned easy meals today knowing I was going to paint) after lunch I'll have a few more hours to paint till dinner is ready in the crock pot, then I have to stop since I can't see in the evenings to paint :(
I wish I could socialize and do fun things more, but like I said I have to choose my time wisely. I hardly get invitesa nymore anyway lol since I have been turning everyone down for years since I paint so much, funny thing is these are the same people that complain they don't get time to paint or sell anything and wonder how I do it, well it's because I turn them down all the time to work
Lol no kidding, I'm with you there this is the first time I have been out in like three weeks, and before then it had been months. I try to choose my time wisely too. I hardly ever go out, and only have like 2 friends, because I have secluded myself and would rather spend time painting, I also have social anxiety which doesn't help. This is a friend from my day job, we are going apple picking, so this should be a good opportunity to get some great fall reference photos for paintings, which I haven't had much opportunity do do. As long as I am able to do something art related it is time well spent.
the other thing about selling is, you have to make one after another. it's not - make one, wait 4 months to see if it sells. you have to be a factory, making one thing after another. try different things. experiment with shape, color, theme and see what gets the most response. while the paint dries, push your work everywhere. if you have few things, get on to redbubble, zazzle and all the other places. if anything it's exposure.
My dad would always say that @Shawna - "you do great work; you juist need to do more of it!" It wasn't art he was referring to however, but it usually applies to life. JL I know how you feel - but you have to keep pluggin' away. It does seem like a 'crap shoot' to figure out what people want or are willing to buy, what strikes their fancy, etc. Often I think I should find a different outlet and plan to explore some painting soon. We'll see...
this is steampunk. a victorian world where plastic and rubber were never made, things are dirty, industrial, mechanical and victorian. can be western too (like in wild west with will smith, giant robot spider). inventions are key, things that need to be powered in other ways and clockwork.
cyberpunk is usually the future. steampunk is a past, but it could also be present depending on what happened in the timeline. where we usually have some big war and it it killed most current commerce and invention. it's sort of like the victorian age never left us.
Mike I love your new avatar!! I was just thinking about changing mine to more of a Halloween theme too!! I kinda agree with you when you say whip them right out and keep going. I've done 5 paintings in the past two weeks and have the next 3 sketched and a few hundred others planned!! Really wish I could have painted today while I'm on a roll, but was out and about. Did manage to get a couple of good reference photos for future projects, and hope to get some painting done tomorrow. I use to be able to whip out two or more paintings in one day, but don't have the time lately :(.