Fine Art Discussions

Jeffrey Campbell

Three years ago, June 25th 2009, was the day the "King of Pop," Michael Jackson, died.

No doubt his music will live on forever and, no doubt he was an artist in his own right, but did pop music as a musical art form die with him?

Mike Savad

nothing dies.


---Mike Savad

Shana Rowe

Wow, I can't believe it's already been 3 years!!

Wendy J St Christopher

Nope. As long as there are tweens, teens and young moms, and the rest of us who enjoy occasional forays into pop, the genre will keep going strong:

Bruno Mars, Carly Rae Jepsen, One Direction, Bieber, Usher, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Demi Lovato, Maroon 5, Taylor Swift, a dozen Glee albums on the itunes charts, etc.

I'd guess pop is bigger than ever. :-)

Jeffrey Campbell

I wonder how many of these (new?) artists can claim Michael as a mentor?

Andee Photography

Pop recycles itself. J Beeb was Pop when he started out and with the right backing is still around...ugh!

When I think Pop the last couple of decades I did not think MJ. Even tho he was given

that name by Elizabeth Taylor long time before I am not sure if his music was Pop when he passed.

Pop goes more with Tweens. Not that it can not be liked by anyone but that is what I think.

But then again what do I know...lol

Peter Piatt

Pop seams will last quite a while for now.
But sure glad that Scat music has gone in the waist land, (never could stand hearing it, and never could understand or make out the lyrics ).
Will be glad when Reggae music dies out.

Andee Photography

Omitted my opinion from here. :)

Ed Meredith

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Ryan Demaree

We havent gotten that lucky yet

Dan Turner

Andee, just like art, great music has several flavors. The best examples of rap, reggae, jazz, country, classical, rock, pop, soul and blues music are really good. But each also has it's clinkers...just like visual art.

Andee Photography

Just removed my comment Dan....I just get tired of hearing the F word sitting at a light in the city where I

work.... and every time...most time I hear that....that is part of the sound....There is a lot of the old school

art that folks pay billions of dollars for that even if I had that kind of money I would never spend the money

on and yet something simple I might find pretty others might find over done or trite boring or not very good.

It all comes down to opinions, money, and who makes it cool.

Warren Sarle

Michael Jackson's death was quite beneficial to pop in that we can hear the Beatles on the radio again. There's also more Michael Jackson on the radio. Maybe today's young song writers who churn out pablum can learn something from those old fogeys.

Phong Trinh

Nothing is forever! Enjoy what we've got!

Jeffrey Campbell

I think this new generation of music will not last. The Britneys, Christinas, Justins, etc. lack the dedication and will get side stepped with society. There's something about the music of the 60s, 70s and 80s that will live on forever.

Gregory Scott

To identify Michael Jackson as "Pop" strikes me as intensely ironic. He and his dad were both, in their own ways, the antithesis of fatherhood. He, as the penultimate Peter Pan, his father as a child molester, and yes, Michael, also, as a child molester. Of course, popular music has always been the very devil's cauldron of moral danger, beginning of with the invention of that lascivious dance craze, the waltz. While he was a great singer and writer, and in the minds of some, dominated the market, I lost the ability to respect him even as an artist in the later years because of the deep crazy he projected in his personal life. That's my fault, I suppose, I was not able to keep the art compartmentalized from the artist.

For some reason, I associated this thread's subject with this article:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/barack-obama-owes-his-presidency-to-michael-jackson-says-late-singers-brother-jermaine-7880420.html

Mike Jeffries

I don't always agree with some of your observations,Gregory, but regarding this subject I couldn't have put it better myself, that is if I possessed your command of the English language and dry sense of humour..

Pop music as a genre will of course carry on, Jackson after all was just one of many artists whose music could be defined as Pop in the widest sense. I like most music, I will exclude Rapp because it doesn't really count as music, but it has never been an important part of my day to day existence because I was brought up in a world that only had access to what used to be called a wireless set. Were I ten years younger I well might have felt deprived if I couldn't have some form of music comforting me day and night and have accepted without question the myth that a group like for instance the Beatles or Jackson were of any importance outside of just providing entertainment. I enjoyed the Rock 'n' Roll era very much because I was young but that was the pop music of the time,(ie it was popular from which the term originated,) and to most teenagers of the fifties it was purely entertainment and we didn't expect pop artistes to be fonts of wisdom on every subject under the Sun or to influence our thinking, well at least I didn't!

. Also I have to confess that the ONLY record I have ever bought was Holst's Planet Suite in 1965, now there is music that can move me!

Gregory Scott

Ah, Mike! The funereal procession with the trombones, and the shattering discordant blow of the tubular bells. (The best version I heard of this, the percussionist struck the bells at the MOST discordant spot, not the least.) It was expression of Gustav Holst's personal struggle with the demons of war and mortality. How well he laid bare the mystery, the horror, and the hope! His courage and sensitivity are amazing.

Mike Jeffries

Thank you Greg, yet again very well put, I realise we are off subject now and I don't know whether you are aware of this or not (you probably are) but Holst had absolutely no experience of modern warfare and wrote the movement Mars BEFORE the Great War which I think was quite remarkable. I love it all of course but my favourite is Saturn which I could listen to all day so you see I am like the present generation, just my taste is different!

Viktor Savchenko

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