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Marilyn Ponty Salzano

Hi, could someone please look at my two images Sapsucker Woods Bird Sanctuary and Midnight cat Nap. They look awful on both my computers and especially when I zoom in on them. They have weird lines running thru them. My daughter says they look good on her computer but I want to check with others.
Thanks,
Marilyn

Andee Photography

What do you mean by weird lines? I can see canvas texture but no extra lines that do not belong.

Is is in a certain part of the image or any time you click on the green box to see the full res?

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

Below the two green trees there are black wavy lines and with the zoom in they look like a bunch of disconnected hexagons and on the top of the cats thigh there are striations. Do the images look good to you?

Marlene Burns

i see the lines as well....and when you go to full res with the green box, it's screaming, your sizes available are very big....i don't think the images are good enough quality to reprint....

Andee Photography

What Browser are you using? I am not seeing any lines. I am on Google+

Andee Photography

I tried two other Browsers and not seeing it. I will leave it for someone else as I do not see them. Sorry.

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

Thanks anyway Andee

Barbara Moignard

I can't see them either.

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

Marlene, I scanned in the original paintings and they were 7MB. When I edited them in photoshop they bounced up to 24MB than I lowered the pixel size to 11MB. Is that what's doing this?

Andee Photography

Maybe contact support and ask them. That way you know if they are printable.

I think they are from what I see as I do not see those extra lines.

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Andee Photography

Compression can do odd things.

Andee Photography

You should be able to upload the 24 (it is a 25 max limit) try that one before you reduced and compressed it.

Heidi Smith

Hmmm, aren't the lines the canvas where the paint didn't sink in? That's what it looks like to me. That the paint just skipped over some of the canvas a bit.

Jim Poulos

I am using Chrome and when I click on high res I see what Marlene sees. What resolution scan did you start with?

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

I don't know what resolution I started with. I went to Kinko's to get it scanned and being new at this I didn't know enough to ask. But on image size in Photoshop it says 400.

Andee Photography

400 MB?

Johnny Trippick

Viewing in Firefox on Mac. All I can see is the texture of the canvas, which to me is not a bad thing. I don't see any pixelation (which can occur if upping the resolution in Photoshop). Looks fine to me!

Barbara Moignard

Well, I'm on Chrome and cannot see it. Like Andee and Johnny I can only see the canvas texture.

Mike Savad

i'm guessing it's your screen. it's either not calibrated, or doesn't have a full spectrum of color. i'm not seeing compression, i am seeing a bit too much saturation and that could be blowing out on your screen.

what i'm seeing right now is what every painting should look like up close.

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MM Anderson

Looks fine to me too on Chrome. FYI in case you aren't aware, if your original file is a jpeg don't save and resave it a whole lot. Each save will mess with the compression. It's better to start with an uncompressed file format to begin with but If you are starting with a jpeg image, save it as a tiff or png while working on it and then do your final save as a jpeg.

Angelina Vick

What I see is the texture of the canvas.

When you used PS...did you make the image larger? And then make it smaller again?
I know file sizes can increase fast but jumping from 7 to 24 seems like a lot.

You cannot make them larger and retain the quality.

Did you keep them the same format? Are they all JPGS or did you change them?

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

It's not 400MB, it's what is shown on Image Size in the box under the inches size on Photoshop.
I didn't intentionally make it larger but when I tweeked the color and contrast and saved it, it went from 7mb to 24mb. I kept the same format. all jpegs. I don't understand why some people see it and some people don't. I'm going to have to scan it again and start over.
Thanks everyone.

Angelina Vick

The images are pretty clear...if you are sharpening it, I recommend being careful. Sharpening it too much will bring out texture in a bad way.

I never look at what the mb says in the image size box. I look at it after I save it.

There may be nothing wrong with your scan...and the problem is the editing or the screens that see it. I have a really new monitor...I see things crystal clear.

I also offer image editing as a service to FAA members. Let me know if you would like me to help out and I can bump up my thread that describes what I do.

Angelina Vick

As a test...you could print an 8 x 10 at home....and see what's there. If you don't see the lines there...you know it's the monitor.

You could even view it at 100%, crop the part that you think looks wrong...and print that out.

Chris Kusik

I see it in Sapsucker Woods big time. It could be over sharpening or too high or to low res in scanning. It might help to save as a png. If you opened and closed the image a lot using jpeg
as a file format it degraded the image. Also most modern flat screen monitors do a crappy job unless they are made for photography and graphic arts. Proper lighting in your computer
room is also essential. I'm using an older mac pro flat screen that was made for photography, graphic arts, and the movie industry and it serves me well. Only a few high end monitors
these days are made to do the job.

Mike Savad

boy i wish i could see what other people are seeing. i tried it on two screens and so far i see canvas. i have an old sharp screen with simulated 10bit, but it can show graduation lines for some color. my main screen is a hp lp2475w - it's a 10bit monitor made for photos. both are actually. i tried it in both screens though and i don't see it. the only thing i can think of is - it's a DPI thing your monitor is doing, and causing a moire pattern across the canvas. and not all screens can see it?

is it possible to photograph the monitor and post the results?

---Mike Savad

Angelina Vick

If someone who see's it looking badly would take a screen shot to show everyone else, that would be helpful.

Norm Holmberg

It's just the pattern of the canvas. If you look at the original with a magnifier, you'll see that's what it really looks like. If you don't like it you'll have to apply the paint thickly enough to completely fill the valleys in the canvas, but that may alter the overall feel of your painting style.

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

I contacted FAA and they said that my images look lovely and are printable so I guess they're okay. Thanks for all the advice.

Abbie Shores

They are :)

Angelina Vick

Glad that's settled. =)

Rose Art

I often see too much canvas texture. It looks odd on paper, and on a canvas print it is double texture, and looks like(sorry ) paint by numbers. Just me I'm sure, but if I see that canvas texture, I will not order. I agree with Norm, but obviously there are differing opinions. If it were me I would like to know them. I do not see pixelation or fuzziness exactly, but I must assume that it is a smallish painting on canvas manipulated to be printable at a larger than original size,( as Marlene was alluding to) so the texture becomes too evident, and no real clean sharp line can be found.

Marilyn Ponty Salzano

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Abbie Shores

I agree Marilyn that did look hurtful and, as you now know the images are perfect for printing as per our quality control lady, I am going to close this thread for you.



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