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Susan Wiedmann

1 Year Ago

Status Of Mixed Greeting Cards And Calendars?

Beth, when can we expect to begin offering mixed greeting cards and calendars?

Thanks!

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I was talking to Sean about this only the other day.

I do not know..... I will try and find out. Tie him down to a timeline of some sort

 

Susan Wiedmann

1 Year Ago

Please remind him that Christmas and other greeting card holidays are almost here - and for calendars, New Year's as well!

Thanks!

 

Marilyn Wilson

1 Year Ago

Yes, please!

 

Joye Ardyn Durham

1 Year Ago

Yes me too. I have people asking for calendars and I don't have a good source for them getting them.
Thanks.

 

I think is a good idea!

 

Sean McDunn

1 Year Ago

Mixed greeting cards will not be available in time for Christmas.

Calendars might be. We don't have a firm date yet but are working with our fulfillment partners on this right now.

Sean

 

JC Findley

1 Year Ago

Thanks, that is HUGE!

 

Susan Wiedmann

1 Year Ago

Sean, thanks for updating us. Might mixed cards be available by Spring 2013?

Thanks!

Susan

 

Marilyn Wilson

1 Year Ago

Too bad about the mixed greeting cards. I have had 4 people ask me about them so far, that are ready to order when they are available. But thank you for the calendars! :)

 

Joshua House

1 Year Ago

Very glad to hear about the calendars!

 

Mike Savad

1 Year Ago

the only thing i wonder about calenders are - do they fall under art, when it comes time for copyright stuff like coke and the like. since it's more of a useful object, even though it displays art.


---Mike Savad

 

Heather Applegate

1 Year Ago

Bring on the calendars - would be nice to have everything in one place - depending how much the base price is on here. May have to stick with Etsy if not a good starting price.

 

Delete Delete

1 Year Ago

@ Mike, take a Kinkade or Trisha Romance calender, copy or scan the art and try to do something with it and see how art is copyrighted on calenders. I think you would find the answer pretty quick.

 

Let's keep this to just FAA getting calendars and keep the copyright discussion for another thread guys please.

Otherwise Sean's answer gets lost in the mists.

 

Delete Delete

1 Year Ago

but wait!! these would have to be "poster size calenders", or they would never sell!! ;)


just teasing you Mike :)

 

Mike Savad

1 Year Ago

actually that does bring up something. some people like having poster calenders, where there is a strip of numbers on the bottom, and the rest is a poster. to be honest i would like that more and it would still be classified as art. the part i worry about is like the card being sold as a micro print, 12 images that will probably be print quality like everything else, for like $30 or whatever they would get something like 12 8x10's. i jacked up the card price because i know what they are doing with it. and i can't imagine anyone wanting to buy my $1200 calendar.

however it would be awesome, 12 months of awesome.

---Mike Savad

 

Clara Sue Beym

1 Year Ago

I made a calendar last year myself and uploaded the art and had it printed. (One of the perks of being a full time graphic artist.) I used the art in a smaller size as my holiday card last year..Printed from my home computer on card stock. While I like the cards- I do not like that the only font offered is Ariel at 18 pt. ...not a very lovely font. It would be nice to be customize them more.

 

Cat Lee

1 Year Ago

Calendars will be great. Will we have to do any new settings? Or will FAA take care of it?

 

Shana Rowe

1 Year Ago

Will we be designing our own calendars, or will this be something the customer does by choosing each individual image they want in a calendar?

 

Cat Lee

1 Year Ago

That's what I was wondering Shana.

 

Delete Delete

1 Year Ago

Mike is right. (did I just say that out loud) ;)

You do not want to be selling twelve 8x10 prints, for $30.

They would have to find a way to add something to the art portion of the calendar, to make it less like a print.

columns for schedules, meetings or apts... something like that.

If not, you will not sell anymore 8x10's. If I wanted a bunch of your artwork, in 8x10 form to frame and hang up, I'll just buy a calendar for $30

 

Billy Griffis Jr

1 Year Ago

I have to play devil's advocate here. I don't want to sell a dozen 8x10's for $30 either, but if it gets my name out there...

5% of a million bucks is a decent chunk of change. But how much is 100% of nothing?

I would think of something like this as a very worthwhile promotion. If I have to sell a dozen shots at a much lower price than I would like, it should be very good exposure and may pay off in the long run. If I hand out $100 worth of business cards, that's still $100 that has to come from somewhere, but someone somewhere is going to pull out that card with phone numbers written on the back one day and buy a $100 print, or give it to someone else who will. Probably more than one someone...

 

Mike Savad

1 Year Ago

if the images were halftoned, then maybe it would be ok.

you wouldn't be getting more exposure at all, it's still just one calendar, and unless your name and page was on every image, it wouldn't count as advertising. it would be better if the calender came with the card. how many calenders did you ever own that you knew who shot that picture - and were ever tempted to buy it as a large one?

i have calenders on zaz, and bubble and they only sell every so often probably because people don't need them that often and probably because i charge too much. i suppose if these calenders were mini's - like post card size it would work out as less competition for posters.

i am kind of curious how it will work, like can we have an overlay frame that can render an image less poster like - like a big title and a frame - NOVEMBER by Mike Savad, and a border.

@tiny - eventually everyone agrees with me, and then you stay on that track. it's mostly because i'm wonderful.


---Mike Savad

 

Heather Applegate

1 Year Ago

The calendar I've done with my marshmallows has each image smaller than the whole calendar page. It was designed to look sort of like a scrapbook - image is smaller, in the middle and framed to look scrapbooky. Calendars aren't generally printed in the same way and are usually on cheap stock paper. I get them printed at low cost to me, then sell somewhere between $20-25.

Calendars, cards and small prints are how I sell this series though - no one will ever buy a big print/canvas or otherwise of this series - if they did, it would have to be for one very quirky household. So I'm more than happy selling the calendars - their circle of friends see it and also want one, many people give them as gifts. And it doesn't bother me one bit that they get 12 "prints" for the price of one. My markup is high enough that I'm ok with that, and I sell more bulk so it all works out in the end.

 

Robert Kernodle

1 Year Ago

About calendars: I find that most print-on-demand calendars are too small for people who still really use hard-copy calendars practically.

The biggest POD calendar I found was at Cafe Press, but I fear that even this has been scaled down and lost (I'll have to confirm this).

Calendar users need big rectangular grids with enough space to write notes. 11" x 17" is too small. 19" x 24" is about optimal, in my judgement -- this is about the size of Avalanche Publishing's calendars - one of the top commercial calendar publishers.

The small size, of course, is a consequence of cost, which is relatively high for POD calendars. Still, I would prefer to be able to offer calendars with ample space for practical use. I only buy my own POD calendars for three years now.

I like Lulu's sturdiness and all-on-one-page design for each month, but the printed boldness of the calendar grid is puny, and the size is not quite big enough.

I like Redbubble's quality and extra strong hanger wire loop at the top, but again the size is too small.

Zazzle has the traditional, two-page design with spine in the middle for each month, which I think allows for drooping pages, as the year goes by.

Give me a calendar with Cafe Press's once oversized dimensions and bold printing, Lulu's all-on-one-page-per-month design, Redbubble's quality and extra wire loop, ... and I will vote this as the best POD calendar ever.

 

Susan Wiedmann

1 Year Ago

Mike, you said, "...how many calenders did you ever own that you knew who shot that picture..." That raises a good point. Calendars I buy usually have a photo credit directly underneath the image.

Sean, would that be possible? Thanks!

Susan

 

Harry Lamb

1 Year Ago

The printer that uses my images for calendars that he gives to his clients for Christmas gifts in appreciation for their business put out a spec of 13 images at 8.75" X 11.25" at 200 PPI. Tere is a 1/4" bleed alll the way around. The image is 8.5" X 11.0", and the squares underneath representing the days of the month provide sufficient space for entering appointment notes.

He gives me 30 calendars to pass out to family and friends. When I paid to have these done, they came in at a price of $10.00 each in quantity (From 15 and over).

I tried moving calendars on Zazzle, but not very successful. Folks were not too interested in paying $5 to $20 USD for a single calendar. It will be interesting; perhaps the clients here at FAA are more likely to spend a little more.

 

Cat Lee

1 Year Ago

Personally, I think the best way to do it would be for each of us to choose the pictures for the calendar, but let the customer assign which months they will be attached to. The artists name and website or FAA site should be attached to each photo in a tasteful manner so it does not mar the appearance. Perhaps just underneath but still on the same page as the photo.

 

Lynn Palmer

1 Year Ago

I agree with Robert about the size of the squares if the calendar is to be used, but I know a great many people who simply hang them on their wall because they like the pretty pictures. I've seen peope leave it up the following year as well for the same reason. I'm thinking function isn't always the principal reason for a calendar purchase. Calendars are also a popular office gift since they fit within the budget for gift exchange and grab bag gifts.

 

Minnie Lippiatt

1 Year Ago

I wasn't going to hold my breath. I went to Shutterfly for variety pack for my greeting cards I will start another post to let you know how they came out.

 

Joseph Frank Baraba

1 Year Ago



It's about time !

Cheers..Joe

 

Douglas Wilks

1 Year Ago

It never ceases to amaze me how people still grumble, even after a positive change is announced that will give artists another item they can sell and make money. I will be more selective in my involvement in discussions for a while, though will read those discussions which are relevant to changes in FAA policies and procedures.

 

Don't know if anybody mentioned this above, but we can already add "Poster Calendars" with a picture up top and a calendar on the bottom, or any combination of that.

I just did some up for Zazzle...we could do the same here:



 

Carolyn Marshall

1 Year Ago

Where, Rose? Or do you mean by just creating the poster calendars ourselves in independent software and then uploading here?

 

Samuel Sheats

1 Year Ago

I joined redbubble specifically for the calendar feature, only to discover that many of my non-standard sized pics -- including several of my faves, natch -- don't fit within their size parameters. I'm relieved I'll be able to stay here after all, and hope I can meet whatever picture requirements are decided upon. Thanks, Sean!

 

Yes, Carolyn....that's what I mean....just create the posters ourselves and then upload them and offer them as just prints (or cards)

 

This very nice person on Zazzle offers free commercial use templates for the Calendar part...you can find them here...

http://bedazzledbyzazzle.com/2012/07/21550/2013-annual-full-year-calendar-resource-1-png-free-cu-download/

(There are more then just this one...you'll have to look around for the others at the bottom of the page above)

 

Here....I just added my first one to FAA:

Sell Art Online

 

Carolyn Marshall

1 Year Ago

Great - thanks.

 

I added a couple more....they fit well on cards with just a little downsizing with the slider, from the customers:

http://fineartamerica.com/products/2013-bubbles-over-niagara-falls-calendar-rose-santuci-sofranko-greeting-card.html

Sell Art Online Art Prints

 

Joann Vitali

1 Year Ago

Can't wait! Thank you Sean!!!!!:)))

 

Andee Photography

1 Year Ago

Is this something we can omit like a regular card if we do not want to offer them or is

this something like the the other forms that will be offered even if we do not want them?

Would be nice to have the option to not offer them on certain images like we do on cards.

 

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