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How To Improve "national Tv Photo Contest" Next Year In 2014 !

Posted by: Syed Aqueel on 06/05/2013 - 12:37 PM


While everyone is busy here mostly soliciting votes for their good work, I have seen discussion where a lot of people have some reservations on how this contest is conducted and run and have shared their ideas and suggestions to improve it for next year. I have decided to create a discussion forum to collect all these suggestions at one place while things are still fresh and hopefully by next year FAA moderators may go through these suggestions and may actually implement some that helps us all !. Here is an outline question for this discussion.

Q. Are you completely satisfied with how "National TV Photo Contest" is organized and run. If not, what are the areas of improvement to make this participation experience a fun activity. Are you satisfied with how votes are solicited for this event. What should be improved or introduced in the voting mechanism to ensure everyone plays fairly. Are you satisfied with the qualification requirements or do you think 250 is too high to achieve. How can quality work gets to the top where it gets to the focus it rightly deserves compared to the images section where everything is dumped and the earlier are lost in the previous pages.

Please give some ideas and suggestions for the next year context and you never know it gets implemented !. :)

Best Regards.


Posted by: Kerri Mortenson on 06/05/2013 - 12:42 PM

Votes need to be locked in.. there are too many agreeing to trade vote for vote, then choosing to take their vote away and use it for another trade with someone else. They are now double dipping and not honoring their prior vote trade.


Posted by: CJ Rider on 06/05/2013 - 12:47 PM

I completely agree! votes need to be locked in. that is the top priority.
Then, maybe we could be given 150 or 175 votes to trade?

So many just give up before they begin because of the daunting task of collecting 150 votes above the trade. I think giving us a closer shot would encourage more people to find say 25 or 50 votes above the trade.

It would mean that a lot more would try if the goal was not set so high.


Posted by: Syed Aqueel on 06/05/2013 - 12:52 PM

Suggestion 1: One idea is to give sometime after voting to withdraw (in case someone made a mistake) but after that time limit the votes can not be withdrawn.

If locking is not possible then,

Suggestion 2: When a vote is withdrawn an e-mail message is sent to the entry owner with the name of the person withdrawing the vote. At least this way it is known who withdrew and people will be discouraged not to play foul and deprive someone at the last moment by withdrawing their vote.


Posted by: CJ Rider on 06/05/2013 - 1:36 PM

Yes that sounds about right Syed!
I would have no objection to someone being able to see my personal vote leaderboard to further insure vote trades.

To encourage more participation - give us a smaller goal. Give us 175 or more votes to trade with fellow members. I have seen many many comments about people just not seeing it as realistic to get 150 votes above the 100 given to trade.

I think a smaller goal, with more people doing it, will = more traffic to FAA from a larger group of individuals.


Posted by: Suzanne Luft on 06/05/2013 - 2:16 PM

Great idea, Syed! I am new to this site and only found out about needing to solicit votes after two people emailed me about it. Although I dislike the system, I quickly realized that unless I have 250 friends who are willing to log into the site, that I would never even be considered by the panel. I'm taking a leap of faith that those I vote for will keep their word and reciprocate as I will. My greatest fear is that I will achieve my goal of 250 and then have votes pulled from me at the last minute because there is no real accountability. I would gladly let other contestants have a record of received votes from me so that they know that I am on the up and up. Frankly, I wish they would get rid of the entire vote solicitation process and just lower the bar to get to the second tier. I've seen some amazing photos from other photographers with very few votes, and it is sad that they won't be considered by the panel. I would like to see this competition more about talent, then popularity or the endless use of hours garnering votes. If the best photos don't make it to the second tier, then did the winners truly win it?????


Posted by: Mark Alder on 06/05/2013 - 8:40 PM

There really should be a better way than turning artists into competitive vote solicitors. I don't have the answer but I don't like the current system.


Posted by: CJ Rider on 06/05/2013 - 10:16 PM

I agree Suzanne - most don't even bother to try because the vote trading is so daunting. It needs to be more user friendly.


Posted by: CJ Rider on 06/05/2013 - 10:16 PM

sorry, I made double posts all over the place yesterday!! :(


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