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Mike Savad

7 Years Ago

Evaluating Your Own Work To Sell – By Mike Savad

This is my latest blog entry for anyone that wants to read it. It's a little long, but throughly enjoyable.

Evaluating your own work to sell – by Mike Savad
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Selling images is not that easy. And explaining to people why they are not selling often comes out more like an insult then anything else. Some people make it look easy, but it's not. Selling often comes down to marketing and who you market too. But more importantly you need to have work that people want to buy.

I know that sounds obvious, but it's harder then it seems. Cameras are everywhere today, each person may be carrying 1-3 cameras on them. Phones, digicam's, SLR's, there are so many – “wanna be photographers”, that it's actually quite hard to convince others that the pictures you take are better than the ones they take.

When I first started digital photography there were no POD sites, there were only places to display images. You were able to get comments on your work, but that was about it. Later on critique sites showed up, these are valuable sites and everyone should join these. You can learn how to critique yourself and be able to spot your own mistakes. However many people skip these kinds of sites now, and try selling as soon they starting taking pictures. This is a big mistake and a big blow against your ego. Because not everything is sellable. Many will take vacation snap shots, and in their head, they thing because this is a gallery, then my things will sell. The customers will be fooled into thinking that my images are actually art, because they are in a gallery. And I've seen the trash that sells in a real gallery, so my work is a real winner by comparison. But the reality is, buyers are smarter than you, art is expensive and a luxury item. And they are very careful what they will buy. People will buy things they can't make themselves or they really have to like what you offer them.

Here are some questions to ask yourself before posting or editing an image:

1. Does my image look like a snap shot?

A snap shot will look messy, cluttered or really busy. The photographer will know what they took a picture of, but the audience has no freaking clue. Very often the photographer will shoot a scene that is too wide, often showing clutter not related to the story the image should have. For example, if you take a picture of a flower, get close to it, and don't have a ton of background. Otherwise no one will know that is the main reason you took that picture. A flower, that has a background may have other elements in it such as people, signs, lamps, trees, cars, etc, if your eye is skipping all over the place, no one will know that the flowers at the bottom are the main attraction (this is what a busy image is).

Snap shots are usually fast impromptu shots that had no real intentions when you shot it. You might see a piece of an arm, a crooked horizon, a very busy image with lots of cars, piece of houses cut off, the crop being too tight (where as the subject is touching the edges), and images without a story. Everyone has snapshots, but usually they stay at home. It's very rare for one to sell. The most common snap shot is a person standing in front of a sign, or smack in the center of a scene. Most good images that are not designed to be a portrait or street photography, won't have people in it (unless they add to the scene).

2. Would I buy my own art?

This is a trick question, because to save face you will always say yes. But would you actually do it? Would you buy your own art, have it framed, etc – for yourself or as a gift? Would you proudly hang it on the wall of your living room as a 36 inch print? If your hesitant, then the answer is no. And if the answer is no, then why would anyone else?

Another way to look at this is, if you were looking for art yourself, and you saw images very similar to the ones you shot – would you buy them? I'm betting the answer is no, because you have shots just like these, and guess what, so does the buyer. Is the work better than yours, and that's why you would buy it? Make sure your work is just as good as the person you would buy from.

3. Who am I making this for?

Every image should have a target in mind. There shouldn't be an “anyone” in your mind, it should be a “someone”.

A someone picture has an intended target in mind. A picture of Boston would attract people that lived in Boston at one time. Or maybe they still live there. A picture of a kitchen would be for people that bake, or need kitchen related art. If your image is of a random scene, and it's hard to tell who your focus is, then it will be hard for the buyer as well. Not knowing who the image would go to, makes it hard to market as well. So be careful what you display. Try not to have the same scene more than twice, choose 2 views and move on to the next batch.

4. What room of the house is my image for?

For example, would your art look good in a living room? Or a kitchen, dining room, bathroom, bedroom, dorm room, office, etc? Not all work looks good everywhere. Many are under a false impression that you need lots of work to gain followers and sales. But you can't just fill the gallery with junk photos. Each image should look as good as the last one. And it should look good in any room of a house. You want to present each image as if it was going in a gallery of some kind. And there aren't many galleries that will except your cat photos.

5. Maybe your work is too good, but it's either a bit boring, or it blends with other people's work too much

I find that there is a plateau in photography in which if you move in a steady line, your photography starts to look like everyone else's. And while it looks nice, and it looks professional, it looks like all the others. If your name isn't associated with that image, or the location or style isn't associated with you, you may not get sales. For example, most stock photography looks the same. Many landscapes of mountains look the same. Partly they look the same because people idolize a certain photographer and copy their style. And now there are two of you – with the same type of photos.

So make sure your work not only stands out against other people's images, but make sure it looks better than theirs. Or more special or unique.

6. Your work is very good, but not very original

This goes hand in hand with the one above. Your work needs to stand out on it's own, it should tell a story if possible. It should have good color balance where applicable. It should look like a really nice picture, however, because it's not original, it will blend in with other images.

For example landscapes are tougher to do than they look. A good landscape is deep, sharp, and is fairly clutter free. A great landscape has interest beyond the first category. Cool looking clouds, a formation, the way the light shoots through them. The shadows on the ground that create a certain amount of depth and scale. The small town that's near by showing you a way of life and again scale. A fantastic landscape is one where you might have camped out overnight in a spot no one knows about. The light is just right, the farmer is in his field guiding his sheep. The animals are frolicking about. A fantastic shot is where you spend a lot more time and energy getting that one photo. Compared to a beginner which would snap it on his way to the next stop. Now that doesn't mean that the person who spent 5 min is any worse than the one who took hours to do it. But the one who took more time may have a more original looking image than the one that other people. Taking the beaten path often yields more interesting results because most people would take the easy path.

And this is true for any of the other art forms. Good artwork looks nice, it's complete looking, it has a wow factor and it looks polished.

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Using baking as an example of what good, great, and fantastic is. (I like comparing it to food because everyone has eaten something at least once in their life).

GOOD - You bought cake mix and frosting from a store. You made the cake and frosted the cake yourself. The finished result is a cake that looks nice, and should taste good, but you didn't do a lot of work making it.

In photographic terms, you took the picture and gave little thought about your presentation. If you were a part of a tour group and you couldn't leave the path to get a better shot, your image would look just like theirs. The scene is OK to look at but isn't anything special, it's almost snap shot in quality. Often taken mid day when the shadows are the strongest, it's a nice view, but 400 other people have the exact same view.

GREAT - You made your own cake from a family recipe. Made your own icing. You decorated the cake. It tastes pretty good, better then cake in a box.

In photographic terms, you went a little out of your way to get a shot. Like when I go on vacations I don't get a choice of when we arrive. If the light is harsh, then it is, too bad for me. If there is a sign in the way, or garbage on the ground I have to shoot around it, or clone it out later. I rely on editing to make a shot look better. I don't have the dedication it might take to get some of those fantastic shots. But you might go off the beaten path, try angles that are not common. You might lie on your back, or on your tummy, getting that shot. You might try different lenses, or just do really stupid things to get the shot. Your images are different and original, but they might not have the super impact of fantastic photography.

FANTASTIC - Using your own recipe, you make a cake from scratch. You might have gone as far as growing your own ingredients, but most likely you bought most of your stuff from a gourmet store. You made your own vanilla using 3 kinds of beans. Everything you made is totally from scratch, so you have full control over the finished cake. You don't follow the traditional shapes or icing methods, you have your own way of doing it, something that sets you apart from everyone else. You have years of experience behind you. Your cake is far superior to any other cake you can buy in a store.

In photographic terms, You went out of your way to get the shot. You camped out over night, just so you can get the morning sun rising over the mountains. You brought your own props, like a boat, a model, chairs, etc just to make sure there was a story, or something of interest (you thought ahead). You went out of your way to get the picture, like hiking a tall mountain (not for the thrill, but to get a new angle). You jumped from air planes, or went out into the jungle, you rented helicopters to get a new angle. You did stuff far beyond what any sane person would do, just to get that shot. But the work stands out. Whether you spent hours in the darkroom, photoshop, or got it right from the camera, your work stands out against everything and it's instantly recognizable as yours.

And just for comparison, I placed the snap shot at the bottom


SNAPSHOT - Speaking in cake terms, a snap shot would be a Styrofoam practice cake with icing added in a sloppy way. You can tell the cake was made by a beginner just by looking at the roughly placed icing and the mess they left on the table. When cut into, it there's nothing special inside, and you wouldn't want to eat it. It's something anyone with any skill can make.

In photographic terms, a snap shot is something you took usually on vacation. People buying their first camera usually take snap shots. They are often impressed with themselves that they were able to take the image. Usually they don't see any of the details that make an image poor looking. Such as, crooked horizon, major perspective distortion, things cut off, people cut in half, garbage on the ground, over or under exposed areas, a really busy cluttered scene (element in the image that has nothing to do with the image itself), nothing in focus. Its an image that anyone can make, and you really want to avoid snapshots, they can taint your reputation.

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7. You might be very new, or not well known yet.

Selling anything takes word of mouth, or in this case, word of eye. You need to advertise yourself everywhere, you want people to be able to recognize your art the instant they see it. However this is a two edged sword, if your work is below average in quality, the only thing your doing is digging your own grave. Get good first, then push your name.

It's exciting starting a new business and you want it to go well. You have dreams of getting lots of money because you saw other people get lots of money selling the same thing. You overlooked your own quality because you only saw dollar signs. You pushed your work really hard, but when people came to look at it, all they saw was low quality items. Pushing snapshots, images that are deemed to be tossed in a fire – you don't want people seeing those, ever. This is why it's important to get good, before you try to sell things. Because it's hard to get a good reputation and even harder to get it back once lost.

8. Has anyone tried contacting you about your work?

Often you'll know your work is sellable to the market place when people out of the blue contact you to work out a deal of some kind. Often when this happens they are con artists looking to score a buck off an inexperienced artist who will be more than happy to hand over their images for pennies. It's up to you if you want to pursue this. But at this point you'll know if your work has a real value or not. Because people that are experienced at selling art, will be able to recognize quality when they see it. So if they see yours, and you get some interest, you know your ready to sell to other people.

You can take that as a positive sign that you made it to the level of selling things to the public (without having to beg). So way to go, eat some cake, it's homemade, I made it myself. Now you just have to market yourself.

9. Is your work steal worthy?

Yeah, I know it's not the best gauge, and yet it is. If people are willing to take it and add it to their pages, then other people are willing to pay for the same thing (just not the people that stole it). You'll know how well it will sell and how fast it will sell, based on how many times someone stole that image. Stealing will happen, it's impossible to stop.

If you have lots of images and you find that no one wants to take your work that could be a clue why your not selling. Some things aren't worth taking (while your reading this, I am not giving you permission to steal my work).

10. Your not well known yet.

Many people are under the illusion that as soon as they post something to a new site, or open a store, that people will flock over to them, tossing money in their direction. And while that could happen, it's not likely too. There are many other artists out there that have been working it longer than you have. And even if you have Grade A material, people have no idea who you are. You usually have to get known before people want your items. Mostly because they have to find you. You have to advertise yourself to every medium you can to be seen. Because images are something you have to see, each of your images need to be posted in many locations. After awhile people will connect your name with your images, and all they have to do is hear your name and that will be enough.

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---Mike Savad




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Richard Rizzo

7 Years Ago

Great post and tips Mike !!

 

GuoJun Pan

7 Years Ago

Thank you Mike, selling is really not easy!

 

Abbie Shores

7 Years Ago

Ah poo.... gotta remove all my work now :(

Good post Mike and am adding to my list

 

Mike Savad

7 Years Ago

well if you remove it, then nothing will sell. though it's easy to market nothing, i get those in my email all the time. viagra this, million dollars that...


---Mike Savad

 

Christine Till

7 Years Ago


Good one, Mike. Thumbs up.

 

Greg Jackson

7 Years Ago

Mike,

Interesting pseudo-military uniform in your new avatar.

 

GuoJun Pan

7 Years Ago

Mike I warry about my qulity, I really want to generate my work without post process.
How about this one here(with a simple Anti-aliasing process) :
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Andrew Read

7 Years Ago

Good info Mike, quick question...you were talking of where a purchaser would buy art for...eg, living room, etc...should you add that to tags....say, living room, indoors...bathroom...and is it good to mention these things in your bio or under the said art piece?

 

Mo T

7 Years Ago

Great tips...ps. Love Your uniform Mike :D

 

Dale Ford

7 Years Ago

Mike, you are a treasure trove of practical advice, inspiration and wonderful art. Gratitude.

 

Alfred Ng

7 Years Ago

Mike, like your "Village People" outfit!

 

Marianna Mills

7 Years Ago

Great info Mike. I like the way how you try to help others by sharing your experiences.

Even my work is quite close to your description to be a good sellable art (and I do sell them time to time) but I feel unconfident about myself, and many times I feel I am not good enough to keep creating, as I see so many great art from other artist.

I really don't know if it's a normal feeling to have, or my work is just not as good.
Do you feel this way sometimes, or are you always confident about your art?

 

Natalie Holland

7 Years Ago

Very informative post, Mike! Thanks!

 

Angelina Tamez

7 Years Ago

Marianna...I think that is a regular struggle for many artists.

 

Mike Savad

7 Years Ago

@andrew - i'm not sure about the location in the tags, because it could be spammy, since it's not a livingroom. and yet at the same time i guess it would be ok, you would have ask beth she what she would say, since she would make you erase it. i suppose adding decor would be better or something like that, where it's generic.


the outfit is for memorial day. i'm thinking that cross dressing might turn off people that don't know me. i made this one for a steampunk piece i didn't send yet, this is technically Dictator Mike, but it works for holidays such as these as well.

@marianna - mostly you need confidence, and you shouldn't care about what other people think about your work. i know sure don't. i can't say i'm confident about any one piece only that based on elements in the image it should sell based on what sold in the past. and i go from there. i've often heard - if you act confident, people will think you are. if you say you know something or talk with authority, then other people will respect that.

@guojun - i can't say if it's good or bad. the question is - do you like it? would you buy it? that's all i can really say. it's best to always do your best. like if you were fixing your house, you would do your best job because it's for you. if it was for someone else you might skimp on details. assume everything you do is for you and it will always be your best. it should never be "good enough" for the customer. nit picking is good.


---Mike Savad

 

Alfred Ng

7 Years Ago

I like to add: you need to constantly adding new works to keep the buyers coming back to visit. Some only has a dozen of so images and just sit and wait for a sale.

 

Ana Belle

7 Years Ago

naks, steal worthy... i like that!

 

Sydne Archambault

7 Years Ago

Excellent post Mike! A worthy read for all of us! And by the way, you look snappy in that uniform this morning!

 

I appreciate your tips and writing style.

 

A Souppes

7 Years Ago

fantastic write up and solid advice, enjoyed reading it. thanks mike

 

Abbie Shores

7 Years Ago

Mike is right,

'decor','interior design', etc is good but, unless the word is part of the image, (is the image OF a living room?) then it is spamming

 

Sweetabow

7 Years Ago

Thanks for the practical and well-spoken advice. It's always good to have a reminder to see things as a buyer and give ourselves an honest evaluation. :)

 

Janice Drew

7 Years Ago

Mike...you have to be one of the most helpful people on FAA. Thank you for taking the time and sharing your advice with all of us. I still say you missed your calling. You would have been one helluva teacher. Maybe it's the new avatar, but I salute you!

 

Mike Savad

7 Years Ago

eh... teacher smeacher. that kind of thing involves being with people and tolerating them, that's not really me. every so often i have something rolling in my head, and instead of chanting it to myself, i spill it out on a page. then my mind can go back to whatever it was doing.


---Mike Savad

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Paramjeet Kaur

9 Months Ago

The same picture is used by many different websites, newspapers, books and blogs, it is a wallpaper also. I have combined 3 different pictures in this. If you say it is not right, then I will remove it.
Can I put it on my website? Or just show people for getting commissions or hang in my home?

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

yes, but that doesn't always make it ok. it may be the only picture. it could very well be in the public domain. wallpaper sites - i'd say 90% are stolen, so never trust those. you may very well find your own work on one of those.

i'm not a lawyer, so i can't give any advice on what you should do. i would do a check to see who shot that photo or others you might have used, and see what the status is. don't trust places like wikimedia either, see if you can find the original photographer, it may take some work though, a lot of people have used it.

you can hang anything in your house, but when it comes to using an image for almost any reason, it can be bad for you. i'd just do the research to play it safe.


----Mike Savad
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James Wartke-Dunbar

9 Months Ago

You have used a very famous photograph but you are allowed to do this provided you have transformed it to create a new work. It gets kinda complicated here because you have created a direct copy of the image but transformed the medium. a vindictive photographer could take you to court for copyright but there's no guarantee they would win, as you have preformed a transformative action, this may be less of a defense if you have simply used a Photoshop filter. This would be slightly different if you had drawn a trademarked brand or character. I've seen several mickey mice and etc, these are defiantly a violation of intellectual property.
In terms of intellectual property - Many famous people would have trouble challenging you on violating their intellectual property by producing fan art, as they dont use their image for merchandising, they use their image for promotion. So Technically it should be fine to draw Robert Downey Jr but not Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man as disney do have a financial interest in selling pictures of iron man and have a legal monopoly on that market, whereas Robert Downey Jr has no right to stop people from sketching him, and has repeatedly engaged in distributing things like head-shots in order to raise his public profile. However once again all this is rarely brought up and a very grey area. With the major reason being theres not enough money in this for Robert Downey Jr to get involved.
Then there's public domain which also gets kinda complicated (Especially in France and Europe) so the idea of the Mona Lisa is public domain, as copyright never existed but photos of the Mona Lisa are copyrighted and cannot be reproduced and if you want to take a photo you have to pay the owner to take it.
Lol so bit of a rant but I'm pretty sure your picture is all good... It is very unlikely the photographer will or can do anything and its very unlikely the catholic church and the estate of Mother Teresa can or will do anything.

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

Hi Mike, just ran across this blog, I've got to say there is some really good information, very helpful.
I am one of those very insecure artists. My thought is, my art may look good to someone who can't draw at all. I might be good, but there is always someone better.
You made the statement, would you buy your own art? I have my artwork hanging all over my bedroom walls, and some throughout the house. I rent a room and I have no where else to store my artwork. I would like to display my artwork else where but I can't afford to get them framed, and they are pastels and need to be under glass. The first thing a person does when they see my work is run there finger(s) across it.
My biggest problem is, I don't have real good quality photos of my artwork which makes a huge difference. I think my painting "Intrigued" is pretty good, but the photo is terrible, it's very grainy. I probably should take a photography class, I'm sure it would help.
Anyway I am really glad you posted this blog. I'm hoping it can help me out in the future. Thank you, Tara

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

yeah but you made that work. your proud of that work. what i'm saying is, if you saw that work in a different store, would it catch your eye enough for you to fork over a few hundred for it?

if you know the picture quality is bad - you can't sell it.

your image you mentioned, is poor in quality and very small. it starts with a good camera, then technique. a scanner may be better for you. some have cropping issues, some are soft, others are noisy or blocky. and its weird because the photo of that guy looks ok in comparison.

the marble one is probably the clearest, but it seems to have contrast issues. you will have to fix these if you want to sell it. right now you have no keywords so no one will find it anyway.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

James Wartke-Dunbar

9 Months Ago

Tara I agree with mike, your photography needs some work, but dont worry too much a smartphone camera should be fine, most will be able to do a 4kx4k image, (Just make sure you select highest quality, and turn flash, face beautify and post effects off), Difficult bit is getting a consistent light source & getting everything square on. It usually best to use non direct natural light and photograph from above, preferably on a mildly reflective white surface, like a plastic table, to create some natural bloom. Purchase a "Bubble-Level" or download a bubble level app for your phone to make sure you are exactly parallel to the painting.
If your pictures are around A4 size just go get a scanner, they are way easier to use and dont require all the dealing with lighting and bubble levels.
Thats basically all there is too it. Although you may want to do some colour correction and levels editing in photoshop too.

I just realized i might be butting in on your thread Mike lol.. don't worry I'll go, I have work to do

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

Mike, I'm so poor right now I can't pay attention, let alone buy anyone's artwork, even my own. But, I know what your saying. The painting "Play Me" is my favorite, and I won't sell it, although I would love to do a larger version of it. The thing is Mike, you never know what someone will like. I have paintings I have no idea why I did them, other than the idea came to me, so now they are on canvas, usually.
You're right about he marble painting, it is a little lighter than the actual painting. I have three paintings right now that I need to take a part and photograph because I do not have good copies of them. I also need to get the pixels right. I am not real bright when it comes to digital stuff. Computers just aren't my thing. Although..... I do love the app on my phone for editing photographs. It's much more fun than playing games.
Thanks for your help.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

artistically the work looks fine. photographically, no.

when i say buy it yourself, its usually an artists level. i've seen really terrible snapshots, stuff that i would have erased on the spot. and people wonder why it hasn't sold. and that's really where that's coming from. there are other artists that just took up the hobby and the work is very very rough, and they expected it to sell to support their new hobby. those people probably will never sell, or at least not right away.

but the painters burden is, getting it so it looks good on the screen.
things like the marbles, you can edit those. gimp is free but tricky to use. you can deepen the black bring out midtone and highlights. add a touch of contrast and vibrancy.

and if you sold the paintings, you would have no archival image of it. if you can get a scanner, a photo scanner is best, something with a removable lid, you can scan it pretty easily.

a phone isn't good for editing. i think they are too small and saturated to give you a good idea what everyone else will see.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

I have a digital camera, but the photos look a whole lot worse, they are seriously grainy. I must not have it set up right. You know what they say, when all else fails, read the instructions. I'll have to see if I can find the instruction manual for my camera.
You're not kidding about the burden of getting it to look good on screen. By comparison, the art is easy. A lot of work, but easier and definitely more enjoyable.
I do have a scanner, but I still have to have a good quality photo to start off with. Hahahaha... my problem is with the photograph.
I cannot thank you enough for your help. One of these days with practice I will be really good at this. Another hahahaha.... I was hoping to get an agent, someone to do all the picture taking so I wouldn't have to. I had someone in mind but she moved away
Thanks again for your help, Tara

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

some camera's are garbage. some have really bad iso issues. generally you want to lock the iso at a 100, and have plenty of light, shoot it on a tripod. abbie has a bunch of steps in a guide.

the scanner is for the painting. you just lay it on top of the surface and scan. 300dpi is full size. 600dpi is double size and each 300 will increase the size by one. so you can have a 12" print, made into a 72" print by scanning it in at say 2000-4000dpi. it may be over sized, but you can save it to disc for later.

the scanner doesn't use a camera at all, it is the camera. a very sharp camera, but not all scanners can make a good print, a lot are meant only for paper.

i have an epson v600 and can scan pretty deeply.

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this is buttons right on the glass.

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this one is only about 4" wide. but scanned in high. i can make a pretty big print with it.

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i made this when i was bored, i think it 12x16. the scanner will flatten the objects though

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and this had a lot of texture in it, the scanner will flatten that look. but the clarity is even and clear. if i recall some of it is about 3/4" thick, which is the limit the scanner can do.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Paramjeet Kaur

9 Months Ago

Thank you James Wartke-Dunbar for your information and thank you Mike for the help too. I did not make this portrait for money ever but when I saw Mother Teresa paintings or portraits here, I thought to put mine too. I will try to find the photographer, if I get I can upload it anytime in the future. I have taken permission for my all other artworks. This portrait gives me strength anyways and as they say art is not about money.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

there is a good chance its in the public domain. i'm not certain, as i didn't look for a match but Marie Bissell Constantin came up as a person who photographed her. so she may be the one to find. if you can find a gallery that has that exact image.

as for this place. there is a lot of stuff that should not be here. star wars, trek, famous faces, brand names, the list is very long. most pod's would have remove it by now.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Paramjeet Kaur

9 Months Ago

I found that Michael Collopy is the photographer. You can check him too.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

i guess there are quite a few. he does come up as related to her. so now you just have to contact and be honest, that you want to sell it. and you want permission. then save the permission for later.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Patti Deters

9 Months Ago

"Later on critique sites showed up, these are valuable sites and everyone should join these."
Good tip Mike - do you have any specific sites that you recommend?

 

Paramjeet Kaur

9 Months Ago

Yes, I know. Thank you for your help.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

@patti - i don't remember quite what i wrote. i don't think there are critique sites now. that was on the early days of the net Pre-POD. but i know rich has one. and i think there is a second one as well, groups you can join.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

Mike, you are man after my own heart. I like using different things for texture. "Turbulent" is a prime example. The painting itself has acrylic paint, fabric paint and sand. The matte around the picture is made up of a standard paper matte with a loose open weave scarf cut up into strips wrapped across the matte. I first painted the whole matte with shiny black acrylic paint, and then dry brushed a coat of flat black paint over the top. You can only see the shiny paint in the crevices. I like flat black better than shiny. I have a new process but I don't want to say what it is. I found it by accident.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

generally i know nothing about painting. and made those partly out of spite to prove anyone can make an abstract. and others were made after a hurricane to keep me sane. generally i'm into photography, colorizing and digital art.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Paramjeet Kaur

9 Months Ago

I asked the photographer for permission. He allowed me to use it for display and exhibitions but said for selling I would have to ask Missionaries of Charity, Motherhouse. I called them because they do not have any online ID and they said I do not need any permission for making or selling. I can do whatever I want to do.

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

Hi Mike,
I'm not really too much of an abstract fan myself. My first attempts at abstract turned out to be more surrealistic, which is still along the lines of abstract, just not quite as crazy. The thing I like most about my abstract is the texture. I like the painting Night Gallery because of the texture. I think your right though, a person doesn't have to draw very well to do abstract. Hahahaha...maybe that's how it got started. Right now I'm in the process of working on an abstract painting of my daughter. Like I said, I don't usually do abstracts, but this idea came to me in a dream.
Oh... I liked Rob Zombie's song " Never Gonna To Stop." My son turned me onto the band "Tantric", I really like their CD "Astounded" they have a good blend of Acoustic and electric guitars. Check them out. Probably not quite what you like, but you never know. Tara

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

i used to listen to rob zombie when i first got into metal, mostly with Dragula. but found he sings too slow for me now, and i need a quicker beat.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Tara Farris

9 Months Ago

Hi Mike, I've decided to take the "Intrigued" painting apart and try photographing it over again. I found some info on youtube about my camera. I also think the painting itself needs to be tweaked some. I'm not giving up on it.
My son used to Listen to Sevendust, there not bad. I see their still touring, they've been around a while.

 

Mike Savad

9 Months Ago

bump

 

Mike Savad

6 Months Ago

bump


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

3 Months Ago

has it been 2 months already?


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

maintenance bump


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

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