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Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Do Members Use Automated Software To Enter Contests?

Hi all. I am finding that some types of members are not following contest rules. It appears members with large followings, many visitors will just throw anything at you matching contest name keywords without considering the requirements for entry submissions. Is this because they are using automated software to enter?

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Hans Zimmer

10 Days Ago

My guess is they just donĀ“t care. You can see this happening in photo threats, too. Some seem to think that rules are for the others only.

 

Mike Savad

10 Days Ago

people are stupid.

that's it. its not automated, people are stupid.

they do it because they read that if its in a contest it could sell. so they just enter anything at all. sometimes things are added because the list of rules are so long that its hard to know what the subject is. others don't put an example of what they want to see in their contest.

like if the contest is about yellow, but the op posts a blue image, you'll get blue images.

but no, its not automatic, people are stupid.

----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Thanks for your input, Hans & Mike! :))

Hans, I tend to agree that this is happening for the most part because some people do not care, and are just looking for exposure. They know you have to delete their images, but until you do, it's free advertising for them.

Mike, I think sometimes there is a misunderstanding, but that is rare in this case. I post points of what is expected and also add example images. In addition, I add notes to the contest Discussions board, so the rules should be easy to follow.

For example, I may specify "no people" and still receive images with people in them.

Regards to you both, Susan

 

Richard Reeve

10 Days Ago

Just be ruthless and weed out the images that don't meet the rules. It's time consuming, but then you have to deal with these low level spammers somehow.

~Richard
http://www.reevephotos.com

 

Mike Savad

10 Days Ago

whatever the contest is about make sure its easy to understand.

images with NO PEOPLE.

there are some contests that have 2 pages of rules, they don't get to the point, and some don't bother to say what they want. they just should keep it simple. the description of the contest should also be the rule -- no people. or this thing - paintings only.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Hi Richard,

Yes, I am doing this! :)) I will continue to do so for the integrity of the contests.

Thank you, Mike. :) I believe I am already being as concise as possible. There are many contests all the time, so members can pick and chose which ones to enter. I personally don't enter any contests if I can't match the criteria or if I don't want to read the requirements.

Most people do follow the rules, but there are others who don't care.

Thanks again! :)

 

Phyllis Beiser

10 Days Ago

I try to check on them a few times per day and yes, they just try to sneak in constantly! Usually at night like little roaches. ;0

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Yes, Phyllis, I do the same & have noticed the same! :) Have a great day!

 

Doug Swanson

10 Days Ago

I've assumed that the people who post weirdly to contests are just shopping for page views. If you set out to do this, you enter a whole bunch of them in a few minutes. In the web world any hit, even a negative one, might be better than no hit.

Personally, I'm not desperate enough to do this, but I can imagine someone doing it, because the tactic occurred to me and I'm sure I'm not unique.

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Yes, Doug! That is exactly what they are doing. No doubt! If people will continue to do this (intentionally), I will manually ban them for entering. Problem solved! Have a great day!

 

Janine Riley

10 Days Ago

You have to be so specific and clarify the rules for entry that it winds up look hostile or dangerous.

I SAIDDD absolutely NO !!!!! people.

Yike. But they will do it any how. Oh , look - here's a naked woman thrown in. just because.

Sometimes I think it is a language barrier. but usually no.

I've made mistakes and placed images in contests that probably weren't correct because it was late and I wasn't comprehending so well .

It must be a lot of work.

I get miffed over contests for paintings stated explicitly done by hand - with a tangible brush - and still you see all the digital painted entries.
And they get votes.

 

James McCormack

10 Days Ago

Either people can't read or people dont want to read. I have similar spam entries on a Pinterest board.

 

Jeff Folger

10 Days Ago

I dont even bother to enter which solves so many problems and I still get 800 bot visits a day... go figure

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Hi Janine,

No, no one with an ineligible image will be able to get votes in my contests, because I eliminate them all, even after voting starts if necessary. Some people will throw a lot of images at you at the end of the contest, but once it closes, I go through them again. I do understand if it was a mistake, but it is obvious that some members are doing it on purpose.

The integrity of the contest is important, so in order to be fair to all, and have winning images that meet the contest criteria, I ensure all images qualify. If the image does not meet the criteria or is ambiguous, it will be removed. Everything is explained in my rules and contest notes. If any other explanation is needed, I will send a PM. If anyone has any questions, s/he can ask.

I am not specifying that I will remove images, but I have indicated that I qualify them, and everyone likely knows that in any competition anywhere, any entries not meeting criteria are not counted. In the case of a public online contest, images will need to be removed, as they can not simply be ignored, else they may receive votes, as you said.

Also, I have seen other Admin enunciate their points, but I expect people to follow the rules, as would I, so I have chosen not to do this. As you have indicated, the people who require "policing" will not listen anyway, so no sense sounding like a brute IMO. :P By reading other people's contest rules, I did notice in their wording that they were having issues as well, so it appears to be an ongoing problem that needs to be worked around, unfortunately. I guess that is the name of the game! :)

Regards, Susan

 

Jon Glaser

10 Days Ago

if this is the worst thing we have to worry then ,,No big deal,,there are things far worse in life...

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Hi James, Sorry to hear that. Have a good day! :)

Hi Jeff, Don't let these issues discourage you from entering. I am trying to improve the contest quality, so artists who deserve some more recognition will get some. Keep the faith! :)

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Hi Jon, Not worried. Just working to resolve some issues to make the experience better for (most) artists, including me. Have a good day! :)

 

Joy McKenzie

10 Days Ago

Janine, if 'wrong' types of entries are getting votes, then the admin of the contest isn't doing their job. Entries that don't belong in a contest should be weeded out BEFORE the voting starts.

If people don't want to stop to read the rules of a contest, then all sorts of stuff will be entered.Why bother to stop to enter images into a contest if you don't read the rules first? I think that's just bizarre. If vote solicitation is allowed, then it gets even weirder. The artist is then compounding the error by asking outsiders to vote on their image which shouldn't be in the contest in the first place.

I read the rules and follow them. Who wants to become known as the idiot who throws their work into every contest? That's annoying.

 

Mike Savad

10 Days Ago

this is why entering one thing makes it easier to weed things out.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Susan Janus

10 Days Ago

Hi Joy, I agree! :)

 

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