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Jeff Folger

8 Days Ago

Topaz Sharpen Is Being Advertised For $20 Off

For those photographers using Topaz products, their sharpen AI is $20 off through Friday (tomorrow). I dont have any affiliate link to provide but if needed I can send you my email from them (PM me)

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Chuck De La Rosa

8 Days Ago

Interesting. Do you use it? Is this as good as the examples on their web site show?

I'll have to try it. There is a free trial available. Not a lot of time to take advantage of the price though.

 

David King

8 Days Ago

I'm pretty happy with Gigapixel so I'm tempted.

 

Don Northup

8 Days Ago

I've been messing with it and it does a good job on regular stuff and on noisy stuff. It's also darn good on blur and focus. I first received the coupon code on Feb. 28 but I may wait to see if they add batch processing. If they do like they did with Gigapixel we might be seeing several updates rather soon.

The only niggle I have is it does so many per pixel calculations you can't see the adjustments in real time even with pretty good hardware. If they add batch processing I'm definitely in.

I don't have A.I. Clear so I can't compare as I think I used up my trial on it already.

One of the reviews I read basically says Sharpen A.I. is better on "blurry" images. I believe that's probably true as it's been doing really well on the soft images I have ran through it.

Cheers

 

Chuck De La Rosa

8 Days Ago

That's encouraging. Batch processing would be nice. NeatImage has it which is one of the reasons I first bought it.

 

Don Northup

8 Days Ago

Wow, a Neat Image reference. :) I've been using NI since like 2003...never have switched to anything else. I have a couple of others but don't use them.

Cheers

 

Don Northup

8 Days Ago

Be aware, you need a good graphics card to run this as it tweaks out my RX-570 and some images take 30+ seconds on the save even with a 570. If you have a great graphics card then you are in business.

Rendering the preview on the tweak is taking just a few seconds. It's barely using any CPU cycles but if you try using it in CPU mode I am thinking you will be waiting a very long time.

They really do need to add batch processing as I hate waiting between edits that could be batched.

No problems while running it with other stuff on my Ryzen 1700X, so like Gigapixel, it seems to play fairly nice when sharing resources even when the graphics card is maxed.



 

David King

8 Days Ago

Does it take more to run than Gigapixel?

 

Don Northup

8 Days Ago

Nah, even though it maxes the card out the rendering can be much faster.

For example, sharpening a 15 MP image may take 30 seconds on my machine. If I tried 2Xing that image in Gigapixel it would take a couple of minutes or more.

When I 4X a small 2MP image in Gigapixel it does it in just a few seconds but then sharpening that image takes about 20 seconds.

So I guess it depends on how you look at it. At the end of the day, it's not taking more than 30-45 seconds on anything I have put through it.

It's been doing a fantastic job on digital art I have been using Gigapixel on. I can't match it without a lot of effort, and even then, it probably still kicks my butt in most cases.

I am going to get it no doubt about that. If I don't get it by tomorrow night I am hoping I find a discount referral code like I did for Gigapixel.

I have run a lot more digital art through it so milage may vary on straight photos.





 

Jeff Folger

8 Days Ago

Also which should we do first. I tend to do the sharpen first and the gigpixel since it gets rid of noise so well that was introduced by sharpen AI

I have a large bunch of the Topaz products and they just gave me a free copy of the focus AI... something like that...

 

Don Northup

8 Days Ago

I haven't tried any direct comparisons, however, I have always sharpened last on everything I have always done. That's what I was taught way back in the day long before these AI tools were introduced. Ordinarily, you would want to sharpen last as to not enlarge any sharpening artifacts, and then have to re-sharpen again. But the way these tools work, that might not hold true.

From what I have seen in the few tests on the straight images I did, Sharpen AI did a nice job of suppressing noise on its own. Sorry, I can't be of more help but without doing any direct comparisons, and without doing a lot of straight photos I can't say for sure. All I know is I'm not seeing a lot of noise introduced with Sharpen A.I. on the digital art I've been running through it.

Free stuff from Topaz? Nice. I think I have purchased maybe 4 or 5 plugins and Gigapixel but have not received anything free yet. Bummer.

 

David King

8 Days Ago

Gigapixal is already quite slow on my computer, (typically 5-20 min.), maybe I shouldn't get Sharpen then.

 

Joseph Westrupp

7 Days Ago

Tempting. I'm really impressed with AI Gigapixel.


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Joseph Westrupp

7 Days Ago

Pulled the trigger based on previous purchase.

Incidentally, I managed to find a code for a further 15% off that discount (ie, I paid $50.99). Just one of those generic coupon sites.


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Bradford Martin

7 Days Ago

It sounds interesting but I usually only sharpen selectively (and last). I was taught no sharpening in RAW, but now I often put in a tiny bit. What you don't want to do is sharpen sky or expanses of sea. Then you have to denoise the sky!
I would have little use for a program that doesn't allow selective sharpening. I could see it as a way to sharpen some off focus real estate photos because of auto focus failure that you can't see in the camera review.
One program I use often is Topaz Denoise. It allows me to shoot at a higher ISO and also removes artifacts from when I lighten dark shadow areas. I tried the Gigapixel and it was nice but not something I would use often. I would only use it if I had a request for a very large image. Denoise takes a minute. You have to close the program and reload for each image.

 

Judy Kay

7 Days Ago

I recently added A! Clear in Studio, Im always reluctant to add additional effects because of the affect it may have on my mac's performance, I have a intel HD Graphics 5000 1536 MB
Is this sufficient for Sharpen AL?. (PS Bradford). while working in Studio with the various adjustments you have the ability to use the mask and adjust the mask within that effect specifically, Im pretty sure that will also be true for Sharpen, Also they offer 30 day trials,

 

Becky Titus

7 Days Ago

Sharpen AI runs independently, like AI Gigapixel, not part of the Studio suite, so there isn’t a way to mask the image. It’s slow, but not unbearable on my iMac, AMD Radeon R9 M395 2048 MB. It’s difficult to compare it to Gigapixel, because Gigapixel’s processing time depends on how much you’re enlarging the image. I’ve only tried Sharpen on one image so far… definite improvement in focus on a very soft image, so I expect it would do very well on an only slightly soft image, but it has the same problem as Gigapixel in that it drastically changes the color of the image if you run it on a Photoshop file. I assume that, like in Gigapixel, you can get around this if you use a TIFF file.

 

Judy Kay

7 Days Ago

Thanks Becky! Didn't realize it was an independent feature,

 

James Ribniker

7 Days Ago

I have a problem with this app. It is too large for my monitor and the controls at the bottom of the screen aren't visible. This is a common issue with Topaz. They suggest I change my monitor resolution. Yea, right.

 

Don Northup

7 Days Ago

Bradford,

While I have more than a half-million photos, I have very few photos of the sea or the sky. ;) Never was much of a landscape guy.

That said, you can run Sharpen as a Photoshop plugin and mask a layer, and then sharpen that layer

Judy,

Minimum suppoted hardware is here:

https://help.topazlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024353312-Sharpen-AI-System-Requirements

Your video setup benchmarks a 600 on Passmark and my middle of the road RX-570 benches a 6842 so I am betting Sharpen AI will be quite slow on your machine if it runs at all.

See above re: masking a layer in PS.

Becky,

Yeah, Gigapixel AI is built to run on TIFF, JPG, PNG and RAW files, and some others, but not PSD. Sharpen AI is not built to run on PSD files either, it currently supports TIFF, JPG, and PNG and I have seen no color issues in my use so far. See above re: masking in photoshop.

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It's not an adjustment in Topaz Studio, it's called from Topaz as a plugin. It comes with the .8bf file so you can install it as a straight Photoshop plugin.

FWIW, I am a fan of Gigapixel because I have a ton of lower rez files shot in the early 2000s and I also have a lot of digital art files that take a long time to render high rez, and several programs that won't render a super large file. It works great enlarging these files because many/most are not super highly detailed anyway.

Cheers

 

Don Northup

7 Days Ago

Joseph, I just pulled the trigger at $50.99 as well.

Cheers

 

Judy Kay

7 Days Ago

Thanks Don for the link and info. I suspected as much,

 

Joseph Westrupp

7 Days Ago

Bradford, sharpening isn't global—it uses AI to determine where to sharpen. But sharpening isn't really what I got it for, more interested in the other functions for cleaning up motion blur and out of focus images. I don't even anticipate using it much, but like AI Gigapixel, it's really nice to have for those odd occasions.

Nice, Don.


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Don Northup

7 Days Ago

Right...

The fact that they include the .8bf file is nice for those that want to mask --> good on Topaz.

Here is what Topaz says about the different modes for those that have not read it.

Sharpen Mode:: Sharpens objects in your image and brings out their detail and definition rather than sharpening all aspects of your image, even unwanted detail (such as noise).

Stabilize Mode: Detects the degree of shake in your image and stabilizes the motion blur for a crisp clear result.

Focus Mode: When your image is slightly out of focus, this mode will learn patterns in your image and can rescue a blur within ten pixels to recover a slight lens blur.


Agree with Joseph re: use. I have a lot of slow shutter speed stuff it's useful on beyond the fact I have seen excellent results with generally soft stuff.

 

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