With the new emphasis by Facebook on groups, I have seen an increasing interest in all of the groups I manage.
I have changed the rules in some of the groups to encourage more interaction because that is what Facebook is looking for.
More Likes, Comments and particularly Shares and Text!
In the FineArtAmeria group that is listed above, we are now allowing more than one post a day and encouraging discussion and comments on individual images.
I want to also encourage Sharing as much as possible. Sharing is how the individual artists can broaden their reach and it also brings more people to our group and ultimately to everyone's FAA gallery.
Text is also very important. When you post to any group in the list above I encourage you to post the entire description along with the image.
You can upload your picture and insert a link to it to your gallery or directly link to FB from your gallery page - up to you, but please say something about the location
* Not sure how important the # hashtags are in FB
We are not discussing the merits or lack there of of using Facebook Groups in this thread. We are trying to communicate with the people already in the thread and have made up their minds that it is something they want to do.
If you want to talk about the pro and cons of Facebook, by all means, start your own threads and have at it.
Can't speak to "buyers" increasing visits or sales, May has been pretty slow for me, so far. According to the "sales Discussions", I've been averaging about 10-11/month. So far, ONE MUG!!! LOL!
BUT, since I've been joining FB Groups, my "visits" have really increased. Last few years, maybe averaging about 100-125/day, now, over 400 and then the last few days since 5/1, 460,793,475,460,793,475,612,480,+++2023+++,814 today! Obviously, many or MOST, BOTS, but STILL!!!
Nothing has changed in years that I have been promoting in groups as far as being able to prove that sales are being made at FAA by people from any groups. FAA does not want to supply us with the tracking that it would take to verify it.
Like Rich, I do know that I get a ton of views in direct relationship to the number of posts I make to both Facebook and Twitter.
90% of the posts I make on FB I make to Groups. I used to run a much more aggressive program then I do now. I was posting in 200-300 groups on an almost daily basis. Now I mainly post in my own groups and a few others and I promote my local gallery sales in about 25 local FB groups.
I will tell you that I have had direct sales from FB groups in my local galleries where people have told me that they have seen the art on FB.
Tatiana, I am like you. I am not sure about the use of # on FB either. Some people say it does not work at all. Others say they do.
The best article I read on it said you had to start with Twitter, click on the hashtag that you want to use and then make your post on FB based on what you learned or seen on Twitter... Waaaaaay! To complicate for me! But it did kind of make sense. But I am trying to shy away for yet another learning curve at my age... lol
I don't mind a few #hashtags. But I really hate seeing a great big long list of #hashtages.
The other thing I don't like is people that are selling tchotchkes and even some of the FAA merchandise when they post the actual cup or phone covers or spiral notebooks. In almost all of the groups, I run I have been deleting those posts UNLESS then come from an FAA member.
My thinking is that the non-FAA members are drawn to the groups by the images themselves, not the products. I could be totally wrong on that. I allow the FAA products because the theory is that any link that goes back to FAA or Pixels is likely to benefit any FAA member if the shopper starts looking around once they get to FAA.
Keep in mind that is the main theory that Sean is pushing in his Transparency thread and has been pushing since he launched FAA.
In the Seascape group, we allow anything nautical including sand dunes, boats, and wildlife or any waterscape like rivers and streams.
It is self-governing in the sense that I can't be there all the time and if no one reports the abuser I don't always see it and get taken down.
The other problem is if you make a group a Selling Group, where anyone can make a post with an item for sale, Facebook gives them the option to auto-post that Sell Post in all the Selling Groups the poster belongs to. They do not take in consideration that the groups my be limited to genre or theme.
These are honest violations where the poster is not even aware it is happening to any great degree if he belongs to a lot of groups.
If you want Dan, I can make you an admin and you can delete them as you see them.
Things have changed since I used to do that but I did about 100 group posts a few weeks ago promoting a series of Master's golf prints I have. I did not get put in FB jail. These prints were in my eBay store and I sold two of them. They are Limited Edition prints. You may have seen them in some of the groups.
I only posted them in golf and sports groups that I have been approved to post in and in groups that allow any images as long as they are art.
If you are posting stuff in groups that the owner of the group wants, he is not going to report you for spamming because it is not spamming.
When I see a post I do not want, I never report it as spam. It is not my goal to get anyone in FB jail. I just delete the post and put the gu on Post Approval meaning I have to approve every post. The only time I report a spammer is for violence and vulgarity.
On any of the themed groups, Western, Seascape and Digital/Abstracts when it is a toss-up as to rather it belongs or not and it is an FAA member, I allow it. If it is not an FAA member I do not allow it and I will delete it if I see it.
Again, I am looking for ways to draw people to FAA because I believe it benefits us all.
I know very little about FB, Floyd. I did not realize that to be put in the FB jail you had to be reported. Both groups I posted to I joined and was approved, so assumed I was allowed to post. I will say I was in jail for only an hour or so, being released with a "we made a mistake, sorry for the inconvenience" notification from FB. I assumed it was some sort of auto-algorithm that was triggered.
I'm wondering about your groups and art groups in general. Is it good form or bad form to post videos? Note the videos have no sound, the "art" fits the group rules, and it is simple quickie stuff with typical Ken Burns pan/zoom style editing. I guess I would need to ask each admin.
I think anyone can report a post as spam, not just the admin. But that is a good question to look into.
A lot of admins do not like Stories or Videos because it takes time to review them and make sure it does not turn into some sort of hate speech message at the end. Trust me when I say that is happening. I have reviewed videos with the first half all great art and then it ends up with some sort of hate thing that has nothing to do with art.
So, this again is where I make an exception for FAA members. I will approve videos because I trust FAA members.
When it comes to videos, I have never personally bought into using them on FB or the Internet. I very rarely watch a video on FB or any SM. Too many of them are poorly done or are nothing but click bait.
Not saying they are not valid. I just don't like them myself.
Fair enough and good points. I'm only considering videos because all the so-called social media experts say videos result in more engagement than static images, and that video is the future of all social media.
And back to the thread subject, it's commendable you trust FAA members in your groups, but I'm not sure they are any different than the population in general. I have seen people post pics of asparagus to groups titled "Oranges Only." IMHO the "just don't care" attitude on FAA is the same as it is everywhere else.
For anyone interested, here is a brand new group I just started. Actually, I took it over some time ago but just reformated it from a Hot Newsgroup with few members to an Arts & Crafts group for all artist and for people that do crafts that may not fit really well in paintings and photographs