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Sabine Jacobs

29 Days Ago

They Are Selling My Images Including Faa Watermark

Hey guys,

I did one of my routine reverse image searches and found (among many others) this website https://www.leroymerlin.com.br/search?term=Quadro%20Decorativo%2020x30cm%20Preto OR https://www.leroymerlin.com.br/

They are selling one of my photos (with FAA watermark and all). I'm sure I'm not the only FAA member affected so I'm posting here so you guys can check.


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Janine Riley

29 Days Ago

Leroy Merlin appears to be a very large Home Goods store based in Africa ?

I won't click on the link until Abbie approves - are they actually advertising pieces for sale - or is this a "grabber" web site that uses our images for views ?

 

Floyd Snyder

29 Days Ago

That link is not telling us much and it does not look like a site I would want to do a lot of clicking around on. It looks like all foreign locations and they probably do not recognize American copyright or maybe any copyrights.

Don't know what to tell you other than they only have the low res pictures and no access to your high res files from FAA.

 

Bee-Bee Deigner

29 Days Ago

Hi Janine,
it is really a search result from the Brazilian branch of Leroy Merlin, and yes, they are advertising pieces for sale.

ETA: "Quadro decorativo preto" could be translated as "black decorative art print" - black as the frame around the picture, so to say.

 

Janine Riley

29 Days Ago

Thanks Bee Bee , & yes, way too iffy Floyd.

Sabine - you can look to see if there is a contact link to send them a DMCA notice - to see how / if they even respond to that.

 

Mike Savad

29 Days Ago

i didn't see anything load for some reason, it could be a scraper site. i doubt they will sell many with the watermark there.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Bee-Bee Deigner

28 Days Ago

Hi Mike,
Basically they wanted to know where are you located first - something like, when you land on an european site, they ask your country of origin for tailored content.

I wouldn't be surprised if they actually sold pieces with the watermark - these chains are unfortunately like Walmart in USA.

 

Don Northup

28 Days Ago

They most definitely are not a scraper site.

Contact them directly and/or send them a DMCA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leroy_Merlin

Headquarters: Lezennes, Lille, France

https://www.leroymerlin.com/

96 years in business (home improvement and gardening retailer) serving:

France, Cyprus, Greece, Italy, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Spain, Ukraine, China, Brazil, South Africa

The site(s) are clean.

https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/c81fb36a3f61b11f5b7b3403511f594019deddf3fc7251c9edab571920f511cc/detection

https://www.virustotal.com/#/url/3d4867338ace08e5288341960d70c2b496c69359151652f424bc54bb61a14030/detection

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TL Mair

28 Days Ago

Interesting too, at the top of the site it say "100% Safe" not if your're the creator of the work apparently.

TL

 

Floyd Snyder

28 Days Ago

"Interesting too, at the top of the site it say "100% Safe" not if your're the creator of the work apparently. "

Good one!!!

 

James B Toy

28 Days Ago

This is a good example of why I believe in watermarks.


-James
http://www.montereypeninsula.info

 

Sabine Jacobs

28 Days Ago

The site is safe and I am in touch with them. I just thought I post here in case there is more FAA work for sale on their site. This is just one I found. Obviously, I came across many scraper sites too. This one is legit and is selling our work.

 

Sabine Jacobs

28 Days Ago

P.S.: Sorry for the late reply - time difference, I'm in Europe.

 

Sabine Jacobs

13 Days Ago

Update: they got in touch with me and marked the image in their shop as 'sold out'.

Quick question.....how often do you all check aliexpress for your images? In the past two weeks I sent about 15 CD to sellers on there. And, voila, the original on here sells again since then.

 

Mary Bedy

13 Days Ago

I don't check at all. I've had issues even exiting web sites where I've found some of my images. It's not worth a virus (even though I'm on a Mac and they are less prone but not immune than Windows). I know there are a couple of wall paper sites that have my images.

I won't use the watermarks. I think they discourage sales and they don't look good on the image anyway, but to each his own - it's all personal preference.

I found one thing of mine for sale on Amazon. Just one item as a one time sale, very odd.

 

David Alan Corbin

10 Days Ago

Tell me more about doing a reverse image search.

 

Don Northup

9 Days Ago

You can upload an image or enter the URL by clicking the camera icon.

https://images.google.com/

This is another popular site.

https://www.tineye.com/

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Tom Schwabel

9 Days Ago

Just a few thoughts.

First, I wish images on FAA had the ability to include a custom watermark with the author/artist name. Too many times I've seen images scraped off of FAA and used elsewhere. Usually the response I get is something to the effect of "we didn't see a photographer name so we didn't think it was hurting anyone" or "it didn't have a copyright notice on it so we thought it was free to use" or something along those lines. A watermark with a "(c) author name" would diminish this stuff. Plus a watermark with your name is free advertising of sorts if your image still does get into the wild. The current FAA watermark is useless for images in the wild as far as figuring out whose image it was.

Second, if some unknown to you site not authorized by FAA is SELLING your work on mousepads, products, postcard, etc, etc, a simple takedown and sold -out doesn't seem sufficient to me. They should be providing you with sales records and re-reimbursing you any sales profits they made from the unauthorized use of your work. They likely won't re-reimburse you or will drag their feet to do so, but I think it's our job as artists to stand up for our work. Amazon is terrible about profiting off pirated work and saying sorry we can't do anything more than take it down. But I will continue to press them with every takedown I have to send them. Otherwise these behaviors continue and only get worse.

Edit to add: Always be careful before contacting people to make sure they weren't authorized by FAA or whatnot!

Third, if you really want to protect your work, you need to register your work with the US Copyright Office. People will tell you this is only a formality and you own the copyright from the minute you finish your painting or click the shutter. And that is true. But you don't have a very good legal leg to stand on without a copyright registration. Copyright registration affords you the ability to receive court awards for costs and attorney fees, as well as higher damage awards. Copyright registration also generally helps you resolve copyright matters faster before they would go to court. Fewer people want to mess with a potentially large lawsuit and court award when they've been caught without any good excuses.

Fourth, once you have registered your work, there are several services out there, often tailored to photographers, that can help you enforce copyrights. They can search the web for unauthorized uses of your work, send DMCA notices on your behalf, and even take lawsuits and settlements on contingency, meaning you pay nothing out of pocket to enforce your rights. Many of these services operate in many different countries, not just the USA. I have used one with reasonable success, and they have succeeded in getting me judgments in federal court for copyright matters where businesses have been profiting from my work in one way or another (either using my work in advertisements, business websites, or selling my work on unauthorized merchandise). They have also collected unauthorized use fees for me in several countries in Europe. If you have interest, you can send me a message and I can provide some suggestions.

 

Bradford Martin

9 Days Ago

To search for an image using Chrome on a PC I just right click the image and click "search google with this image". There is an extension you can get for Chrome and Firefox that allows you to do this. Actually I have been doing this for a decade or so and I thought you didn't need the extension anymore, but I guess you do. Or you can use the other methods , which are way slower. I use it all the time to check the source of images on social media or to see who is using my stock images.

Thank you Sabine for the heads up. I can't imagine they are selling photos with watermarks. For all I know they but a print from FAA if they get an order.
My personal thought on this type of thing is they are not likely making any money, it is not impacting my sales and there is not much I can do about it. I might look later and send a dmca order. Or not.

 

Most of these are click bate that just want to infect your machine. This one sounds legite hopefully they will remove it, but I have to question why they had it out there with a watermark on it, sound like they knew it wasn't an image they could sell! Some make their money from adverstiser too off these site not from the images themselves. This is why we use watermarks because people steal our images on such a regular basis for their web site and it make it clear they stole it! We have one image of the houston skyline that has been been found on 14 different companies website last year. Most of the time they try to crop out our watermark if they can but if they can't remove it they still use the image with our watermark on it. We have pursued most of those companies and I just did another round of searches for that same image and found 30 new ones! We found a lot of our images from our personal website and FAA on clickbate sites. Not much you can do about them if they are in foreign countries per our lawyer. You might be able to find the web hosting site and contact them. I have sent take down notice to a woman in Greese for an image that was on the Smithsonian website and she just ignores me. That one image of ours from the Smithsonian website has over 20 pages in google reverse search of people all over the world using it in every language you can image. Nothing we can do about it unless it show up in this country which it still does from time to time. This is part of our business and we sell images for web use and you don't need high resolution images for web sites or blogs.

 

Tom Schwabel

8 Days Ago

Bee Creek Photography - unless they are in China, Vietnam, Russia, or similar, you actually may have options to deal with those outside the US. As I mentioned earlier, have you looked into some of the photographer services which have partnerships with law firms around the world? Most have a zero win zero cost model.

 

Tom - Yes, we have as we turned them over to our lawyer who handles them for us! This is one of those law firms that does just that, but he does not pursue blogs or facebook, newletters or similar type. The law firm we use works for photograpers and artist of all type on copyright issue only and we spit the settlement with him and no cost to us.. This lawyer is a photographer himself so yes he will pursue them if it look lucrative to his law firm, but as in all cases it based on what is the best use of their lawyers time I am guessing! If they don't appear to be a legit business they may not be at the top of his list to go after to do!

Now we have looked into some of these partnership with group that do this but the cost was pretty high to join at price of 50$ a month plus their registration cost and requirements and yes if countries abide by international treadies maybe they would pursue. However I am betting it would still be base on what would be most lucrative to a law firm! They would have to have lawyers in other countries so If you know the name of one that pursue oversea for no cost please e-mail the name! Thanks!

 

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