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Robert Yaeger

9 Days Ago

Have You Learned Anything From The Billboard Contest?

The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for you to share anything that you have learned from participating in the Billboard Contest.
Looking for positive comments, or suggestions for improvement. No negative comments, please.
Cheers

One thing I learned relates to Instagram (IG), which I use to promote my work and increase visitors to my FAA site. Through use of a third party software, you can set up a page containing multiple links, set your IG link to that page - making a much more powerful way of promoting your work. I currently have my IG site multi-links set to point to the three images I have entered in the billboard contest, and the fourth link points to my FAA shop.

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Peggy Collins

9 Days Ago

That's a great tip, Robert. I have ignored my IG account for quite awhile but what you have written here makes it seem like IG would be a pretty good option.

What I have learned in this contest so far is not really contest-specific. I have learned (or am practicing) patience. Trying to walk people through the voting process has been a challenge at times.

I have learned persistence too. A number of things have gone wrong for me since submitting my work. But each time something comes up, I look at it like a boulder in the river...it is something to be floated around so that I can continue on my merry way so that hopefully I can get what I want.

I've been tempted to give up a few times but like our Canadian hockey hero Wayne Gretzky says, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

Also, I have to keep in mind that it is only a contest. There are more important things in life than winning a contest.

 

REVAD David Riley

9 Days Ago

Lessons to share. They may or may not be relevant to you.

1. Anyone with their own web site can setup a multi-link page for use in conjunction with IG. For example, I put my contest links as a feature on my home page at REVAD.COM. Indeed, you could put your multi-links in your AW ABOUT section (I did that too) and link to that on IG. Or the announcement bar. Or anywhere on your AW. My point is, you don't have to share your links with a third party app/site that might disappear in the blink of an eye.

2. I reaffirmed my distaste in using my art as a component in a competitive sport. I make it because it needs to be made. Anything further is icing on the cake.

3. I reaffirmed how much I enjoy taking an unexpected creative trigger (the contest) and running with it. In this instance, I went on to Wiki and found some Creative Commons billboard photographs and then applied my images to them, just to see how things might look - should the miracle happen ( I never win any competition, and have no expectation of doing so this time).

4. No matter the success or failure of my advertising campaign, I enjoyed the creative process stimulated by the need.

5. I learnt a lot about how contests work here on FAA/Pixels. I discovered most of my contacts are reluctant to open an FAA account just to vote. The core supporters did their bit, but not many beyond that - so far.

6. As Peggy said 'persistence', but I new that anyway, even if I do tend to forget it, when it suits my need to move on.

I'd still love to 'see' my big RADICAL SPIRALS on the LA horizon :-)

FOR ME

DAVE
REVAD.COM

 

Drew

9 Days Ago

I've learned there are a lot of starving artists. Starving for attention that a LA Billboard may fulfill!
Hehehehehehe!

 

REVAD David Riley

9 Days Ago

That sums it up Drew!

 

Drew

9 Days Ago

LOL David! Actually, anything that motivates artistic creativity is a positive thing! Hopefully FAA could make this an annual competition.

 

Abbie Shores

9 Days Ago

Loads.

:-/

 

Yuri Tomashevi

9 Days Ago

I learned that there is some marketing technique not-well-known to most of us on FAA. Or may be there are more than one those techniques. There are two artists on Billboard Leader board, who could get over 250 non-FAA votes in just 1 -2 days. See my discussion on that here - (Vote Pickers In Billboard Contest - https://fineartamerica.com/showmessages.php?messageid=4806759).

 

Peggy Collins

9 Days Ago

Ha ha, Abbie, I'll bet you just love it when contest time rolls around.

 

Joseph C Hinson

9 Days Ago

I have learned that very few of my Facebook fans care enough to vote for me and that it’s pointless for me to try

 

Kathy Anselmo

9 Days Ago

Yes, Pixels signed-up a lot more "artists" that never knew they were artists.

 

Chance Kafka

9 Days Ago

It's helped me re-prioritize marketing. Not a knock to the contest or trying to be negative, but I realized getting involved in the mutual voting at the beginning before the 25 vote limit was put into place took away needless hours I could have and should have been promoting my work off the site

 

Diana Angstadt

9 Days Ago

I'll just be happy enough with getting my work on people's walls!

 

Mario Carta

9 Days Ago

I made my own outdoor acrylic billboards and they are visible displaying 30 of my own original artworks outdoors. https://youtu.be/n82CW_RaaI8 :-)

 

Roy Erickson

9 Days Ago

Yes - I don't have near enough friends.

 

Yuri Tomashevi

9 Days Ago

I knew that most people in our age, when information is overloaded onto our devices, almost nobody want to be bombarded by e-mails, which he/she could consider as not needed.
I also assume that most people had an experience with multiple companies, who will send frequent e-mails to those people (as soon as those companies got his/her e-mail address).
I just didn't know how wide this knowledge spread.

Some Billboard contest participants tried to get votes from social media followers. From comments of those FAA participates I concluded that almost everybody hate to sign up for not-needed-companies.

 

Yuri Tomashevi

9 Days Ago

They could sign up if they like or might like some product of such company. But not as a gesture of help to a friend or to a someone on a social media.

 

Steven Ralser

9 Days Ago

I can't get that many people, so I decided not to even bother - there gets to be too much fighting for votes and complaining when votes go away. Wold like t o be featured on a billboard though.

 

REVAD David Riley

8 Days Ago

I think I hit my ceiling of around 20 true connections.

Exactly as I could have predicted.

Throw in some new people here, I entered my images during the early frenzy, and this accounts for my 33/34 votes for each image.

I’m going to back off and not bombard those real connections with further ‘begging’, sorry advertising!

Unless something new occurs. I never say never. We cannot predict our future with great accuracy.

All the best to everyone. Enjoy...

FOR ME

DAVE
REVAD.COM

 

Dora Hathazi Mendes

8 Days Ago

Many things, maybe my list is not complete:

- Faa community rocks! If you help for others, you can expect help too.

- Best to come every day to read the threads, or at least to see what is going on, to know about the things in time, and join in time.

- That I should join these opportunities, even if I dont consider good enough my work for the task, because you just never know what other thinks.

- That the best to consider these contests as a great shout out to your work, and try to use it to spread word about your art, and to make new connections, so use it wisely to ride the waves.

- That one should be never afraid to ask help for a good cause, even if there would be some negative responses and rejections..

- That more followers are looking my posts than commenting anything on them. Maybe they just enjoy to see, but when I needed help, surprisingly much more came than I expected. So the number of comments and likes shouldn't discourage you, on your SM, because there are potential buyers just watching your activity silently, and when something grab their attention it is like a trigger. So maybe if you think you are alone on your page, can be that not! Need to stay consistent to make them move one day and buy your works.

- I can expect more support from followers (practically strangers who I never met in life, we never talked, and never seen eachother) , than from my own so called "friends" on FB such as school friends, relatives, etc.

- That I should never declare, that one SM is working better than the other based on the movement I am able to create there. So far related with this contest, I mean happened because of my post about it, I sold a canvas, an original, and some products, and got a new big commission, and a possible business collaboration because somebody saw my pinned post on Twitter, which I consider just a SM just to be there and do kind of nothing only tweeting this and that...

- Next contest I will start with a big chamomile tea at my side to stay calm.

- Cats rocks ( I knew this before anyway but it was great to see their power again :) )

+1 sometimes I better just to watch and keep my opinions for myself

 

David Bridburg

8 Days Ago

I learned very little new, other than to take down my MailChimp sign up pop up. People hate getting, "Give me your Damned Email or go away" first thing.

But my faith in the human ability to complain has been reaffirmed.

Dave Bridburg
https://Bridburg.com

 

Mike Breau

8 Days Ago

Swimming with dolphins doesn't just mean big fins.
Crash course Dolphin 101 is just a beginning.

 

Floyd Snyder

8 Days Ago

Same here, I learned very little other than making people give up their email address was met with a tremendous amount of resistance and as a control measure should be rethought going forward. Sign of the times I guess.

 

Mario Carta

8 Days Ago

I learned everyone can have their own billboard with their own art, even on a New York city street.


Sell Art Online

Lol!

 

Phyllis Beiser

8 Days Ago

Yes, that I am not bubbly enough to win a popularity contest. Sorry! LOL

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Bradford Martin

8 Days Ago

I learned that I made a good decision a long time ago not to enter contests that are for the promotion of any business.
Actually my exclusive contract with Getty would likely bar licensing my work to FAA for a promotional billboard. I didn't look at the fine print so not sure.

I reaffirmed my suspicion that contests bring your the worst in people. I found that out when I did a few contests here n FAA and people spammed in images that did not belong. What was even uglier was the comments I go when I actually put a note in their inbox about it. They decided they can enter anything they want and it was up to me top delete and shut up.

I learned that companies building email lists so they could spam was one more reason they do contests and one more reason not to get involved.

I learned that people are more motivated to market for vanity then for actual sales. Which makes me wonder about what motivates them to create.

I learned that the like for like culture is still strong here and can spring into action fast.

Question: I didn't read the contest. Do you at least get paid for the use of the image on a billboard? I see people basing stock companies and even those who license their images, but at least they get paid something and see their work all over.

Is that too negative?

 

Peggy Collins

2 Days Ago

Hi Phyllis, thanks so much for voting for my kitties. I voted for your oysters and I believe I was going to vote for your egrets as well but I ran out of votes. I sure wish more of the very talented work I've seen could get up there in votes but as I'm now realizing, you pretty much have to be a real PITA to accomplish it!

John, anyone can get their links for sharing by going to the My Contest tab and clicking on their entries.

Edited to add - I just saw you post, Jessica. I wonder if anyone has the nerve to do that. There have been a few snafu's for me in this contest and I don't want to chance anything. My cats are all on the leaderboard but as that gets filled up with some artists' work get huge numbers of votes, they slip a little every day.

 

Jessica Jenney

2 Days Ago

I tried it several times. I have nothing to lose as I'm not serious about the contest but just for a little more exposure

 

Jason Fink

2 Days Ago

I learned it's easier to win a T-Shirt than to actually make a sale.

 

John Haldane

2 Days Ago

Thanks for the clue, Peggy. That is good to know. I should have guessed there was a way around that.

I LOST another vote today. Wrong direction! LOL.

Alas! and avast!

 

David Smith

2 Days Ago

There's definitely something fishy going on with the current leader.

Look at the times that the votes were cast, especially on July 11th.

Looks more like a bot than real votes.

 

John Haldane

2 Days Ago

Of course it is a bot, David. Why would anyone keep going past 300 votes? That is plenty of cushion to guarantee finishing with 250. The rest are worthless votes. No one would keep recruiting votes after that - it would be terribly wasted time. But a bot knows no totals - it just votes and votes.

 

David Smith

2 Days Ago

I wonder if someone went on fivr and paid one of those companies that drive traffic to websites to do something similar.

 

Jessica Jenney

2 Days Ago

That top image is rather small for a billboard.

 

Don Northup

2 Days Ago

You don't need a lot of pixels for most billboards.



https://fstoppers.com/originals/how-many-megapixels-do-you-need-print-billboard-220239

Cheers

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Nikolyn McDonald

2 Days Ago

John Haldane,

You said, "I also find it troubling that the limit of 70 pages is not lifted for this contest. It makes it unfair to the early entries who "scroll off" the list. If they didn't get their links written down and saved before their images disappeared, it is too late."

I believe the part about "if they didn't get their links written down and saved before their images disappeared, it is too late" is incorrect. Even if my entries are buried, the "My Contest" tab is accessible to me and that's where the link is. If you are using a link copied from your browser bar, you are going about it awkwardly, to say the least.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please, Abbie or anyone.

And for what it's worth, I voted for this one, John: https://fineartamerica.com/contests/billboard-contest.html?tab=vote&artworkid=27332827 I think it would make a great billboard.

P.S. Do NOT try what Jessica suggested unless you have an entry you are no longer promoting and wish to experiment. I had one and I did. I removed the vote. Closed out, so to speak, by going to all my contest entries to re-open it again. Tried to vote. Got the "you have reached your 25 vote limit and cannot vote again" message. Now it MAY be that if you remove your vote and vote again immediately, without leaving the page, it would work. But as I'm still actively promoting my second two entries, I'm not going to try that.

P.P.S. In regular contests here, the images order is fixed by when you entered the contest. I am not getting at all what you are suggesting, Jessica.

Apologies to Jessica - she clarified below.



 

Rule #1
There is no fight club..

 

Carol Cavalaris

2 Days Ago

So far I've learned it;s taken me two weeks to get 64 votes. I would like to learn how to just join FAA, have one image in my portfolio, submit my image to the contest on July 15 and have over 300 votes.

 

Jessica Jenney

2 Days Ago

Nikki, if one removes their image or images from the contest (I didn't say to remove any votes) and then at another time add them back in the contest, those images will not lose any votes, but your images will now be on page 1 where they can garner more views and votes.

I can afford to do that since I am not promoting my entries at all.I am not comfortable soliciting votes. I'm just in it for some extra exposure like any other contest here.

No apology needed, Nikki!

 

Paul Douglas

1 Day Ago

I might try that

 

Paul Douglas

1 Day Ago

I might try that

 

Paul Douglas

1 Day Ago

I might try that

 

I am learning people get a little bit obsessed over contests...

I presented three images I consider adequate one day, asked people through social media to vote for one of them if they liked it the day after, and that is about it. I have no intention of soliciting votes, much less bother other fellow artists with messages in that direction. I have received a few messages and I am astonished these people do not even take into account what would be the result if we all did the same... I am not even considering to bother other people to get the few votes that separate me from a t-shirt I don't need (no offense meant).

Were I to vote for others, I would take the time to go through the images and vote for the best. As I am not willing to do that, I am not going to ask anyone to vote for me. I do not feel confortable with the idea of trading votes either.

I think FAA's strategy is sound and correct and they will end up with 5 good images from popular people. At least they will if they can see through the vote rigging schemes and find the really popular artists among all the people who get past the 250. As for the guy who got 300 votes in one day, he just rigged the contest better. I do not see the problem, compared to all the traders (no offense meant either, I am not saying rigging the contest is wrong, since it is allowed).

I think people lose the north all too easily, as we say here.

 

Phyllis Beiser

1 Day Ago

Weston, I just received an email here on FAA soliciting a vote. '' Message:
Hello!
I just voted for your image
Peace In The Midst Of The Storm

I await your vote '' ( with a link to his entry)

I do not have the heart to tell him that I have used up all of my votes and will not remove any to vote for him. I do not see where my numbers have changed anyhow so I think that he is full of crap! LOL

 

Phyllis Beiser

1 Day Ago

And another email just now about trading votes! Pleeeeaaase!

 

Floyd Snyder

1 Day Ago

There are still 15 days to enter.

Am I the only one that expects to see more of these one-day wonders popping up?

 

Floyd Snyder

1 Day Ago

Duplicate... sorry.

 

David Bridburg

14 Hours Ago

I decided not to use 23 of my votes.

The offers for home baked goods were not enough.

Dave Bridburg
https://Bridburg.com

 

Robert Yaeger

13 Hours Ago

My votes have all been cast, but I was thinking it would be nice to be able to see images that are nearing the free t-shirt voting level, so you could cast your vote and put them over the top.

 

Curtis J Neeley Jr

13 Hours Ago

A billboard does not sell art!

This reduces the collectability of the art displayed.

I did a look that sells the artists and pixels together better than their idea by far.

Take a look.
It would sell several artists and pixels.com better than their idea(s).

Decades creating signage make this obvious.

 

REVAD David Riley

11 Hours Ago

I thought long and hard about my #2 discovery (in my post right at the start of this thread)...

"2. I reaffirmed my distaste in using my art as a component in a competitive sport. I make it because it needs to be made..."

...and decided (with votes in the thirties for all three images) that I will withdraw from this contest and never enter another. T-shirts advertising PX are of no interest to me.

So, should you have been kind enough to vote for one of my images, your votes should now be free to use on another image (assuming that's how the system works).

Good luck to you all.

FOR ME

DAVE
REVAD.COM

 

Weston Westmoreland

9 Hours Ago

That's about my idea for the last day Robert, to help people near the 25 mark. T-shirts for the people :) Gotta like the image, though, having 24 votes won't be enough.

REVAD, selling art is a competitive sport :)

 

REVAD David Riley

5 Hours Ago

Weston, just as well I don't need to sell it. Showing it is enough. :-)

FOR ME

DAVE
REVAD.COM

 

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