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Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Windows 10 Version 1803 Update To 1903

https://windowsreport.com/windows-10-april-2018-update-end-support/

Windows 10, version 1803 will reach the end of servicing on November 12, 2019. This applies to the following editions* of Windows 10 released in April of 2018:

Microsoft will automatically update to version 1903

After the disastrous failure of version 1809 it concerns me!

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Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

considering it updates automatically, and since i've written to them about a dozen times and they never once responded, i do wonder what this is about.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Mike, you still have to install it yourself. Or you can restart and update your pc and it will install.

 
 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

last night something did something, and i ended up with a weird screen asking me to set things up. and i do know i updated something major a month ago. i'm pretty sure i'm outside the 1803 range though.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Mike, check in settings - Update and Security - your windows update history and see what number you are on. 1803 or 1903

 

Joy McKenzie

1 Month Ago

I'm on 1903, and there was an auto update within the last day or so, Mike. I found I got some weird sort of glitch font text in red (very old school) directing me not to power down. It was so strange to see that! I almost thought it was a virus or something that shouldn't be there.

All it's saying is the 18 version will not be supported after November. So people who want to be running Win 10 should have the 19 version going forward, to make sure any patches or updates are compatible.

 

Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Thanks, Joy, otherwise how did it go and how long did installation take?

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

there it is 1903. they broke the cut and paste with that one. where you can copy many things to the clipboard, it locks up on the second copy. only if i click something else like the task bar does it unfreeze. complained twice, no updates yet. haven't tried today though.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

i forget how long it took, longer than i'd like, but i don't think it took that long at all. nothing memorable, but it did this at the end of june. didn't even realize it was there, must have sat there for a week or more.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Joy McKenzie

1 Month Ago

I have a newish system... the update installation literally took two minutes, if that. Except for the DOS -like text in red, everything went as usual. I'm still a bit concerned about the weird red text.

 

David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

My machine was updated over a month ago. Went very fast, because I have an SSD hard drive.

Nothing to it. No bugs. I have it on both my machines. The process was automated. I do not make the choice to download the OS.

Dave Bridburg
https://Bridburg.com

 

Richard Reeve

1 Month Ago

Ah Windoze... the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you for the warning, Jessica. I had an email today from MS stating they will stop supporting Win7 next year (which we all knew) despite the fact that it's still used extensively in the commercial sector. When I read "What you can do..." my initial reaction was "install Linux..." ;-)

 

Kathy Anselmo

1 Month Ago

A year ago I was given a nice pc (24 GB, 12 GB video, fast Intel ssd, 3 TB data drive) and finally installed Windows 10 64bit pro. It's like having a mini-supercomputer, the only software installed is Microsoft word and Battlefield V. So far the PC is rock solid, no problems... it gets used a lot. As for Windows 10: it's stripped-down, simplified and I wish I had installed windows 7 instead. Battlefield V will test any computer!

 

Dan Carmichael

1 Month Ago

Amen, Richard.

I'm with Mike - what support? After posting dozens of things in their forums and questions to support, I have yet to receive a single reply.

Oh, that support - when they continually find security flaws in their crappy OS and offer patches for their slop.

Gotcha.

 

Diana Angstadt

1 Month Ago

Wow, I'm still on Windows 7 at home...

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

i think a pop up on my father's machine said that they will stop all support on that in jan, or sooner. i upgraded because i rebuilt my machine and figured might as well just get it over with.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Diana Angstadt

1 Month Ago

I will have to upgrade also... waiting for a few more sales with FAA before that happens!

 

Louis Dallara

1 Month Ago

FYI: I have been running Feature update to Windows 10, version 1903 since Successfully installed on ‎6/‎19/‎2019

NO Problems

 

Chance Kafka

1 Month Ago

Windows 7 was so much better than the dumpster fire of 8 and the half hearted attempt to improve it that was 10. I wasn't even aware 10 had different iterations, good to know Jessica.

Who else thinks 7 was the best Microsoft OS? Vista was meh, XP was second best, 98 was still rather primitive but fills me with nostalgia, and 8 almost made me buy a Mac. 10 is still a dumpster but they managed to douse the fire with mud.

 

David Bridburg

1 Month Ago

Louis ^5

Dave Bridburg
https://Bridburg.com

 

Rich Franco

1 Month Ago

Jessica,

Running 1903 here, not sure when it was updated, but NO ISSUES!

Rich

 

Don Northup

1 Month Ago

Personally, W10 has been the most stable and troublefree OS for me. I was never happy with 95, 98 was better, XP was decent, 7 ran pretty well, and 10 runs the smoothest. Of course some of this may be due to advancements in system speed, increased ram, better drivers, the apps I was using, my hardware, etc. Any versions I have not mentioned I have not used. FWIW, I took some programming classes in BASIC in the late '70s and used MS-DOS for many, many years. I think I may have had a machine running 3.1 as well, but I didn't use it much. Besides my W10 machines, I still own and a 7 machine and a pair of XP machines.

I recently updated to 1903 with no known issues.

Cheers

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Jessica Jenney

1 Month Ago

Thanks, Louis and Rich! Good to know! :) I think it's better NOT to know when it happens :(

 

Mike Savad

1 Month Ago

i only had win xp, win 7 and now 10, i never did the other versions. anyone remember MS Bob?

i'm not thrilled with 10, they hid many things and dumbed down other things. it doesn't run as the real admin when i load it up, its more like admin light, and i have to OK everything when i run things. its annoying. there is a way to make it run just on the main admin, but i couldn't get it to work. otherwise its like 7, with some things better, some things worse.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

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Rich Franco

1 Month Ago

Jessica,

Might be that since I really don't "use" WIN10 that much, just seems like a good platform.....I do remember now, that a few weeks ago, was using the computer and something happened. Both monitors went BLACK and the mouse froze up. Tried restarting a couple of times and then just left it and when I came back, was up and running fine, that could be related to the update you mentioned...

Rich

 

VIVA Anderson

8 Days Ago

Thanks, Mike............still cannot decide what to do to get W10 due to closure W7.
Have talked my head off, and the choice is
Get a new W10 tower.......but......it's the worry of
putting all from my tower to a new one, and that much gets lost.
Am really stressed out and it's my problem and am sorry to go on/on.
That's the news today,sigh.

 

Mike Savad

8 Days Ago

initially when win 10 forced its way into my system, i didn't trust it at all. if it had bugs, they removed it. right now the system looks like 7, but it simplified the look of some things and dumbed other things down.

nothing should get lost, don't toss the old machine. see if you can get help installing the old drive into the new machine and move stuff out over time. its much more stressful finding reviews on a half dozen components to build a new machine, or more if its totally from scratch.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

8 Days Ago

Oh, I just can't imagine your stress........I'd go broke,buy complete,rather than that. You're a whizz !
OKOK
Yes, I have a local who is very trustworthy, so will have to wait anyway for funds to accrue for me,
then get a W10 tower,then get my fellow to bring over /install the W7 info I need.........at least HE
knows what he's doing.......I do not, obviously...........it's all so expensive, and all due to M'soft,!!!
Thanks again, Mike............lol::don't go anywhere.......more to follow, sigh.

 

Susan Wiedmann

8 Days Ago

Viv, I heard from an IT person I know that those of us with older W7 computers (me too still) are better off getting a new computer with the latest version/update of W10 installed. And then get someone knowledgeable to do the transfer of our old files - after we make sure we have backed up everything twice on external hard drives!

Tell your computer guy what you want to continue using from W7 and what new W10 privacy-invading stuff you want him to disable! Let us know how it goes!

 

VIVA Anderson

8 Days Ago

Thank you, Susan. Spot on advice, and am going to choose a new W10 computer, then get it all installed along with
info from W7, though I hear horror stories of a lot of lost info which didn't transfer. I will have to take my chances.
I've got 2 months window of time to decide.........am a mess over this, the cost, b/c of m/soft, is over 2KAU, all up ! and
am in no position to absorb that,but getting help from family, I hope (am in their bad books right now::a different
issue,just 'me', drama queen,sigh). Thank goodness for Mike,you,others' posts......can't take the stress....just want
to make art,sigh. OK.........will report back when things firm up, with thanks again,again,again, everybody.......V.

P.S.............hmmmmmm, have to read up on that 'privacy invading' thing, via W10? omg.........endless msft annoyances,sigh.

 

Susan Wiedmann

7 Days Ago

FYI: Another Microsoft Patch Tuesday Update screw-up... Aug. 13, 2019. THIS INCLUDES WINDOWS 7, 8.1, 10, ETC. Read the entire article!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/08/17/microsoft-confirms-update-warning-for-windows-10-windows-81-and-windows-7-users/#7ebe994f2306

 

VIVA Anderson

7 Days Ago

If ever I was secure, I am not now.
Thanks,Susan.
What occurs to me is that should I get a W10 computer, the first hurdle would be
to Update W10 to Current....a mammoth job!...
and Automatic, no doubt!
All the updates.
All the corrections.
All the glitches,
Before even attempting my uploads,work,mail.

Great Article....thank you.

 

Susan Wiedmann

7 Days Ago

Viv, one simple thing I know is if you currently have W7 Pro you must update to W10 Pro, not to W10 Home. But W7 Home to W10 Home is okay.

Are there any senior center places near you with knowledgeable staff who would do the initial updates and uploads for a huge discount or for free?

 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

as soon as your connected to the net, it will automatically download all the patches. it does so nearly every day. you don't even notice it until you turn it off. its important that if you install it by disc, you let it do that totally. then update your drivers. or you might mess up the system like i did. but after i installed it the 3rd time, that did the trick.

i haven't run into any glitches. and if there is you can complain to them by hitting Windows F.

if you are getting it via disk. its a $130 US for the program, you get the code and download it. it has to be burned to a DVD, the thumb idea never worked for me. and you want to run a compatibility program first to make sure your system can handle it. and make sure you have around 40gigs of space just for that. i'm not sure what it will do to that drive if you simply upgrade. because it added a hidden sub drive on my disk and in order to do that i would assume it formats it that way. that's why a new hard drive is a better idea. or simply a new system, then its all set up. all you have to do is transfer documents, mail etc. the mail can be tricky because of where it stores it.

you can install windows 10 home over win 7 pro. if you have pro and its an update it will automatically become the pro version... but as i found out, if you ever had to install it again, neither your original or your new serial will work. your better off installing from scratch, the home version. you don't lose much of anything. and the things you are missing can be turned on via command prompts. but you won't probably ever use it, i can't even remember the name of what i was missing.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

7 Days Ago

Very late here, but, am so grateful to you both,with deepest thanks.
I'm on W7 Pro.
Am reassured,Mike, when, not if, I buy, it
will be with W10....Pro or Home. Each one I look at
has one or the other,sigh. And they insist, if I get Home,
then I can add on, more $$, Office, et al. Am hoping
Word is included both.
Yes,Mike, shall do hard copies of Contacts,p/w..s,
Am clearing,deleting every day,all four copies of
anything !, long story....the chaps who installed W7
made four copies of every Document,ohhhh woe me,lol.
Makes for a huge transfer,and,gig worries for future,yes.
For now, still time, am trying not to get totally confused.
Susan, 15 yrs ago I did take the Cert classes thru local govt, for
a price...over more than six months,v.comprehensive. My
background at work, was in Law, secretary,and naturally
cluey,and v.fast,still,typing...but.." a little knowledge is a
dangerous thing".....so am thorough doing research. That
article was an eye-opener....am sorry/glad I'm not alone
about W10 confusion. But wait, 'there's more', lol, but
will digest all, and,report back and so grateful. T.U. S.M.

 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

you can use open office. its a full package and its freeware. i haven't used word in years. but if you have the old disk, you can install word on the new machine.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Thanks, Mike re O.O.
You said 'install by disc'......but, if the tower comes with W.10, is a disc also
needed,supplied? hmmmmmmmmmmm
T.Y.

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

i don't know how they come now. there should be some kind of system disk that is either made by your or comes with. as for word that would be a different package. i know i had to burn my own disc, mostly its that serial number that is important. copy that everywhere, so you don't lose it. if you do, then your screwed.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Thanks, Mike very much

 

Susan Wiedmann

6 Days Ago

Mike, what you said about it being okay to install W10 Home over W7 Pro is incorrect, according to Microsoft.

See the W10 version chart direct from the Microsoft website in the following link. Instead of a check mark indicating a full upgrade from W7 Pro to W10 Home it is labeled "D", and states "D = Edition downgrade; personal data is maintained, applications and settings are removed." https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/upgrade/windows-10-upgrade-paths

I have read that W10 Home is often, not always, the one that "hiccups" when there are issues with W10 installations and certain updates. Perhaps people have been installing W10 Home over W7 Pro to save money, since it is cheaper, and then having problems?? I am not looking forward to upgrading in a few months - and then again in how many years??




 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

from what i read you can turn a home version into a pro version if you have the serial to win7. and it did work. but i messed up the install by putting in new drivers while it was doing something and had to install again.

so basically if i recall:

had win 7 pro
installed win 10 home

its now win 10 home,

read about serial number thing. did it, and now i have win 10 pro.

but then i messed up the drivers and it wouldn't load at all. either version.

it wouldn't accept my serial for 7 because now its 10. and it wouldn't accept my 10 serial because i used a win 7 serial. its confusing.

i installed it all again and haven't had any issues since then.

until i learned that my old spyder 3 will have trouble in 10, and it did. i forget what it did or didn't do, but they aren't supporting that in a few months either. so i had to upgrade that part. everything else is working.

ideally i think its best that if your going to install a new copy, always do it on a brand new hard drive. either a helium drive or an ssd. you'll get a boost in speed. drives don't last forever, and installing everything on a new one a few months down the line because the old one broke, would be a terrible bummer.

once you have 10 though, in theory, you should never have to buy or go through this again. what was interesting/annoying was that motherboards have to be compatible as well. like the one i have i think is win 10 compatible only not 7. so you'll want to make sure your gear will all work. i think you have till jan?


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Mike, Susan,Thanks so much.Fyi
What I'm noticing more and more, from
Talks to Sales,big computer shops,
The consensus is....buy W10Pro....
That narrows it done a lot.
HP have all new models W10Pro.at
AU$2K+++ omg.
HP still do Home,old models built in.
Slow and sure now...!

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

i still say buy windows home. you won't use most of those pro things.

home $130
pro - $200

if the system has pro then fine. but i haven't noticed too much wrong. i think it was the policy editor that wasn't included, but it can be installed later on.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Susan Wiedmann

6 Days Ago

Mike, you know more about computers than Viv and I and countless other people combined! :) For us mere mortals NOT having to deal with issues during or after installation is worth more than $70!

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Agree, Susan....Pro, but, add 1K to Home purchase price, here in Oz.
Still researching.
New models daily,due to W7 demise.
OKOK, back to boring deletions.
Inspired Art on the wane,sigh.
I wonder why I bother.

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

i suppose, i do know i had much stress when i found out i had to install it again, i'm certain there was a 3rd time in there too. but so far so good, smooth sailing. i think partly it really, really helps to take screen grabs of EVERYTHING. every setting, passwords, etc. i have a program called SHAREX its a video recorder, but it also turns the Print Screen into a real print screen and makes a screen grab. and i grabbed anything and everything with a setting and set it up in directories so i knew what i was looking at. and every single program i had, i did a grab - just in case. i missed a few, but i got pretty much all of them. now i do it every time i get the right settings on something for later use.

i took note and backed up where my mail was, bookmarks, if there were any programs that were portable or had a config file i can transfer i took that down.

then wrote down every program i use, along with screen grabs of what the desktop looked like, because i have files i keep on there, its hard to remember when the screen is now blank. found all the copies or disks of those programs and put them aside. as long as you have a process it will go smoothly. but then there are little niggles like - what was my email password? and how was that set up? and where did my bookmarks go? why do they have an import when it doesn't import. that drove me crazy for a day, until i found the profile and copied the whole thing in there.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

its one of the reasons i build my own. its about half the price, though the same if i started totally from scratch.

i remember configuring a dell, and i got it perfect. and in one single minute - that model was totally gone and i had to start all over again. and considering new built machines strip down what the parts can do, like limiting the motherboard to the basics, i just couldn't stand that.

one good expandable case, power supply, video card, are the things that almost never change. everything else changes. the other thing i noticed was that if you buy a machine, we couldn't find anything larger than i think a 2tb drive, which is weird. i have a 10, they don't seem to sell that size unless its in a raid.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Taking notes,Mike.
Yes,it occurred to me,as said, to copy,save,all :
Documents;Contacts;passwords,etc.....= peace of mind,
exhaustion now, security later.
Thank you.
note to me...Bookmarks,too

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

also find all your pluggins for both browser and photoshop, gradients, brushes etc make a copy of that. if you have special hardware like printers, scanners etc, look for a win 10 version of that. along with any other freeware type programs, you might want to upgrade those as well. i had a back up thing that just happened to come out when i upgraded.

its funny how many little things you add over the years, that you miss when you forget to take note of them. the advantage of simply buying a new machine means you can plug in the old and get the data you missed off of it. but if your like me and only had that one computer, its like waking up and not knowing where you are. you have a blank slate and have to install everything and put the tweaks back.

like i forgot about the balancing adjustments i have on my speakers. had to measure those all over again.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Susan Wiedmann

6 Days Ago

Viv, save everything on TWO different models of external hard drives after you do a complete scan. Those things have issues too, from what I have read in these Discussions.

Mike, have you thought about building computers for people in your area?!!

 

Mike Savad

6 Days Ago

noooo... noooo..... noo. no no.... no

i do it for myself. too much stress looking up parts, i remember as much as i do when i make it, then the info leaves my brain areas. i can assemble it just fine, but that's it. and modern computers need coolant systems, of which i never did or want to. i just build them for myself for the most part.

don't like dealing with people, i would be dealing with them all the time if i did that.

as far as back up drives, a drive holder works well. a toaster or a slip in.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R6OZUGC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

i got this, but wish i got the toaster, this does take up less space. it has a 10tb in it, should last me a while. i used to get the enclosed already made type, but i like this set up better. i can swap them when i need to.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

VIVA Anderson

6 Days Ago

Don't blame you, Mike.......'no,nono' lollllllllllll

I've got WE Elements backup. Thanks for advice.
OK,
now I have to go to the 'other side'.......Art !, lol, to
go thru all/any ptgs stored belowstairs......and CULLLLL.
It's 'clean-up' day here.....time to cull.
Speak later, sigh, much later.......thanks again so much.

 

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