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Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

Does Anyone Know How To Meditate?

try as i might when i try, i never float, so i never know if i'm doing it right.

reading about the symptoms i could have - i'm now creating them. i've done that in the past when i got the wrong allergy extract. it took months to not generate my own symptoms.

but i'm going to give myself the virus simply by thinking about it too much, and people seem to be calmer with meditation, but i don't know if i'm there or not. am i supposed to see something or nothing, and there are a million videos, all useless to me. so i'm wondering if there is a simple method in doing it, and how i know i did it right. usually i'm pretty calm, but its nearly impossible to be calm right now.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

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Movie Poster Prints

15 Days Ago

Meditation is supposed to be placing yourself in a complete state of relaxation – thinking of nothing – resting your mind and body – so you feel rejuvenated.

I must do it wrong – whenever I try my mind ends up deep in a forest with the sound of birds and breezes or at the shore with waves crashing. It’s more like a dream while I’m awake instead of meditation.

David Dehner

 

Becky Titus

15 Days Ago

You might try breathing exercises. These three are simple, easy to do, and very effective...

https://www.drweil.com/health-wellness/body-mind-spirit/stress-anxiety/breathing-three-exercises/

 

Mario Carta

15 Days Ago

Mike, I have meditated in a Zen Buddhist monastery.

The important things as I remember that phase of my life is the following.

Posture, the lotus position (hard) or even the half lotus position, it takes getting used to.

You need a quiet place.

You focus on the breathing while emptying your mind of thoughts, easier said than done.

You can also try a Kōan, MU comes to mind.

Mike sounds like you are just overloading your self, try to disconnect from all media, listen to relaxing music, don't worry about anything. Another thing is if you are stuck in a cycle of thinking about symptoms, look into the writings of Émile Coué, it might be much more effective than meditation in your case and it's very simple to do and very effective in my opinion, it taps into the power of the subconscious mind.

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

i can never think of nothing. either i go into future thinking mode and all the ways it can go wrong. fantasy mode and create a world of my own. or i go to sleep and dream.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

the problem is i'm in the category of maybe dying. along with another person in my family. there is nothing on tv, only movies, of which i'm going to have to watch. no new things like comedy because nothing is on the air. only news and only one certain news item. or updates on the phone and so on.

and the funny part is, if they didn't say anything i wouldn't be thinking about it at all, and maybe never get it at all.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mario Carta

15 Days Ago

The mind is a very powerful thing, equally is the subconscious mind. You do have the internet to choose your programming, the media does the programming for us, I avoid it.

 

Toby McGuire

15 Days Ago

While mediating you need to remain aware of thoughts entering your mind and kind of let them disappear into thin air or pass right through. Don't dwell on them. Eventually you'll be able to keep your mind clear.

 

Mary Ellen Frazee

15 Days Ago

Meditation is an essential component in saying the rosary, I do it regularly. A lot to memorize at first, but it becomes easier eventually.

https://www.fisheaters.com/rosary.html

 

David Bridburg

15 Days Ago

Meditation and hypnosis are very similar, the difference is the method of getting fully relaxed.

The idea behind hypnosis is giving yourself suggestions in a very relaxed state.

This video is the best I can find on the topic. He discusses breathing in and out, relaxing, getting heavier, and moving deeper and deeper into relaxation.

The suggestion here is sleep, but you can do as you wish with this.



Searches for other videos, I have no faith in any of them.

add: One thing, you do not know how suggestible you are. You need someone to personally see you and measure that. If you are not suggestible this is all for naught. You need to be highly suggestible for any of this to work.

Dave Bridburg
Bridburg.com
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Tony Singarajah

15 Days Ago

Mike, looks like you are getting some good suggestions and guidance here. Anyone of those method would help to calm and get to lower the stress levels.
I think people have different tolerance level for stress.
I just think like looking at chessboard or pool table and plan the best next move. Yes stairing at it and thinking about it will stress you out,
You need to take break and have a drink of some sort and continue.
Yoga is another popular activity nowadays in meditation, but I haven't tried it yet, kind of thinking about it , for flexing my body.
If you are able to self discipline your self , then then fallow some online free teaching of any of these suggestions and see what work for you.
I have done my share of prayers and meditation retreats in the psss.
The way I learn to handle my life is , if it is to be , it is up to me. Think logically and approach it step by step.
I dont let any thing worry me, because every situation has a solution.
All one need to do it be calm and collect your thoughts and make a plan.
I can't say it works for every one as we are all different.
It is ok to be in your own little world and use your creativity to make arts. Art is like meditation.
Hope you find peace.

 

Peggy Collins

15 Days Ago

I was doing weekly meditation classes until this deal with the virus.

We were told that you don't need to sit in any special position. You just need to be comfortable. A lot of us lay down on the floor.

You are supposed to keep your mind clear but your mind will always want to be like a monkey, thinking about your grocery list or what somebody said to you, etc. etc. Let each thought happen and then go back to "no thought".

The main way you achieve "no thought" is through breathing exercises. Inhale and exhale through your nose from your solar plexus. Count your breaths. One of my favorite breathing exercises is called square breathing...breathe in for five counts, hold it for five, exhale for five, hold it for five and repeat the sequence. Or you can do others, like in for four, out for four. Focusing on your breath helps to keep your mind clear.

I've also used beads for meditating...there are 108 beads on a traditional mala used for meditation and you touch your fingers on each bead as you say a meditation prayer.

You could find guided meditations on YouTube if you want. Our meditation teacher reads texts and/or has us picture calming things such as a lake, or walking through a gate into a garden.

Meditation and yoga have definitely helped me get rid of anxiety. Just the deep breathing even if I'm standing somewhere (say in a long grocery store line-up) really helps me to calm down.

 

Mike Savad

15 Days Ago

@david, can you do a quick check for me - your link at the bottom, is there an open bracket or something? when i get this in the mail, and other times too, it breaks the link in the mail. i'm wondering if you have a coding thing going on. thanks. and for the video too.


with me, i can see things vividly, like a movie, every scenerio, mostly all at once. usually in can force good outcomes, but this one not as easily.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Alison Frank

15 Days Ago

My childhood friend in NYC has been doing this for years. I asked her for a good introduction video a few years ago and she sent me this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbw0s_MoHOQ&sns=em

Her group is going to be doing meditations via Zoom. I'm going to join tomorrow. If you want the info let me know.

 

Edward Fielding

15 Days Ago

What you do is you turn off your computer, turn off the TV, turn off the phone and go for a long walk.

 

Kathy K McClellan

15 Days Ago

Becky's link, Breathing Exercise #3 :

"This breathing exercise is a natural tranquilizer for the nervous system." This is absolutely true. I learned this but was taught not to hold my breath between the inhale and exhale. ***The important parts are IN through the NOSE , OUT through the mouth and exhale LONGER than inhale.

I have avoided panic attacks and lessened extreme pain using that breathing exercise. I taught it to a friend just this week who called me from her hospital bed in a panic from extreme pain that the meds were not lessening. Ten minutes later she hung up so she could rest while the pain subsided.

Mike......
"This breathing exercise is a natural tranquilizer for the nervous system." Do this if you don't do anything else. :)


 

Don Northup

15 Days Ago

I can't help you, but I can tell you my very highly educated brother used to be some sort of instructor at what is the Transcendental Meditation Mecca of the United States --> founded by followers of the man himself, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.

He has been into it his whole life and it's said that the best ones can levitate during deep meditation but personally I have never seen him lift off of the ground --> I think it must be just a deep mediation mind thing.

This entire town, temple, and college a few hours from me was built by his followers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharishi_Mahesh_Yogi

https://www.maharishivediccity-iowa.gov/

https://www.miu.edu/

It's not a cult but they are deep into the inner self, world peace, health, love and all of the things that go with it. All kinds of highly educated peeps and high-society people go there to get deep into mediation and learn the ways.

All I know is my brother was always into it and the guy was a computer programmer long before we could afford computers, has held top high-paying jobs in tech, has like 12 years of high education, spent years in the peace corps, founded a couple of churches and was a pastor for many years. The guy was invited to Africa to help teach religious organizations over there what to do during the height of the Ebola epidemic. He returned safely a couple of months later and he is one of the smartest, kindest, and mellowest people I have ever known.

Cheers

 

Doug Swanson

15 Days Ago

Do what works, levels you out and takes you out of the world, even just for a little while. It doesn't need to follow anybody else's mystic formula, but should just take you away from all the other BS. Escapism is a necessity sometimes.

 

Marcio Faustino

15 Days Ago

You don't try meditate. Meditation is the opposite of trying anyting. You just relax and pay attention on your body and what is around you (be aware).

It helps if you don't do nothing at first. Jusr sit down in a quiet place and listen to the wind, look to the shapes around you and pay attention on how all this senses experiences makes you feel, without verbally naming or describing anything.

With time you will eventually realise you are in a meditative state.

In the west where we have the work doctrine, meditation is seen as an exercise. But it should not be an exercise. It should be fisrt about reserve a time for you so you can do nothing other than enjoy your body sensation.

Once you get used to meditative state you can do anything in this state. Work, play, drive, etc.

The body is always enoting to what our senses get, including to our thoughts. Once you get rid of the limiting and vicious mental verbalization and over expectation, you become more aware of your body emotion (reaction to what the senses perceive).

All alive beings emote, even cells, proto-cells and bacterias. The nervous system and the brain works primary to analyse the body emoting.

And alive beings emote as part of homeostasis regulation for the life self regulation and preservation and perpetuation.

Being aware of your body emoting and not influencing it with distressing mental thoughts helps you to have a better homeostasis regulation. (Harmony).

People who have the need to be constantly busy are distracting themselves from their internal unbalance and look the for the order "feeling" (not emotive) through the feeling of control they have in their activities.

But meditation is not about have control. It is not about trying. It is about letting go.

www.marciofaustino.com

 

Kim Shuckhart Gunns

15 Days Ago

Mike, There are lots of ways to de stress during these times. Take control of your day. I live in Washington state.
In the am I listen to Spanish classical guitar music as I have my tea in the morning. I give myself 10 min of TV news a day and pray for those in need. I've been painting other peoples dogs since we're in isolation and my weekly art classes I taught at a senior center are all cancelled along with all my art shows in the area.(income gone) So I'm using this time learning Italian on Dulingo, watching art demos on u tube, or the Fake or Fortune show on u tube. I ordered Diamond Dotz to do with a friend that totally makes you think of nothing else and you make a great gift to give others later. I walk in my yard after my house chores are done and take pics of the flowers coming up.They may be the next painting. I like listening to the podcast Artists Helping Artists, the Dave Ramsey Show podcast or Ted talks.I'm not on any social media. but am happy to reach out to other artists viewing their work or suggestions on their upcoming art pieces. You are so talented use this time to help others grow,create or even clean out the studio and last but not least read some art books or do some life drawing using Croquis Cafe a super website for sketching. Take Care everyone and Keep Creating! Hope this helps.

 

Gill Billington

15 Days Ago

Thank you Mike for starting this thread and thanks to everyone for your responses.

I have been getting very stressed lately and only sleeping a few hours each night. I just can not stop my mind racing. I realise I am watching and reading too much news about the virus epidemic and I am getting wound up with the people, including some of my relatives who are not taking things seriously and putting themselves and others at risk.

I used to love walking by the river but the footpath is narrow and I don’t want to come face to face with someone at the moment. We are supposed to be staying at home and social distancing.

Thanks Becky for the link to the breathing techniques. I will try that.

 

It is difficult to do it by yourself at the beginning. I suggest you to download an app or use free recordings on the net. Begin with short sessions (5 mins).

 

Tom Druin

15 Days Ago

https://youtu.be/w9M2JMO6rtA 1.Introduction to Meditation with Shastro: Beginning https://youtu.be/yllgVMGKt1k 2. Introduction to Meditation with Shastro: The Breath https://youtu.be/dIb83PhA8fA 3. Introduction to Meditation with Shastro: In the Gap https://youtu.be/_SUYHcOYoUw 10 min.Daily Practice: Guided Meditation with Shastro there are more in this series and many techniques as well as teachers to be found online

 

David Bridburg

15 Days Ago

Mike,

The link here works perfectly well. I never add the link to an internal email on FAA/Pixels. My last internal email to you was March 1, there was no link added.

Adding going back to Nov 16 internal FAA mail, no link added.

My Yahoo emails have a signature with the AW, that works perfectly well. But I have not emailed you in roughly a year.

Not sure what you are on about. And I doubt you know either.

Dave Bridburg
Bridburg.com
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Jim Whalen

15 Days Ago

When there is nothing I'd rather think of more than thinking of nothing, I go for a long walk.

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Karen Newell

15 Days Ago

My favorite meditation teacher Thich Nhat Hahn

https://youtu.be/b5gMJ1BovQ0

 

Becky Titus

14 Days Ago

Accusing people of being full of crap seems the opposite of Zen and Buddha-like. I practice emptying my mind quite often. It’s a wonderful sensation. I learned how to do it at the est training back in the late ‘80s. Different things work for different people. Nobody’s way is “the” right way.

 
 

Mike, we are all dying. Every day. My sister told me long ago (she's a yoga instructor) to not 'try' to meditate. Meditation is a very personal and unique thing for each of us. It's going to 'look different' for you than it is for me. I explained I couldn't quiet my mind and think about nothing like I have read a million times. She said it's impossible to stop the mind. Simply bring your attention to the present moment. When your mind wonders, bring it back. Breathe. Be aware of the rhythm of your breath. Give your full attention to your breath. When the thoughts come, let them drift by. Start out for a few minutes, work up to more.

If you choose to walk rather than sit, then walk. I personally find working in my garden the most successful meditation of all. Or creating art. But then there are those times I can't work in the garden. I then work on art. And sometimes, when I'm really out of kilter, I do indeed light incense (I'm a Nag Champa girl from my hippie days), and put my focus on my breathing and let go. I've never done that where I haven't felt better.

As a Type A person who rarely sits still and is an empathetic person who feels everyone's feelings, is also in the 'you're gonna die' category if I need attention in a busy hospital, I feel you. Then I remind myself to concentrate living in this moment. It's all I have. It's mine.

It ain't easy. Some days we fail. Some days we triumph. It's the human condition. Be gentle on yourself. You are worth it. :) xoxoxoxo

 

Tony Singarajah

14 Days Ago

Zen ( sense) or No Zen (no sense)
Mike , If you are still alive after reading all of this relaxing methods, then you are good.
You may want to close this thread it starting to get ugly .
🍺

 

Edward Fielding

14 Days Ago

I would think delivering pizzas would be meditative. Relaxing drive with the smell of hot cheese and the smiles on the hungry customer's faces.

.....

Papa John's (PZZA) is the latest US company looking for help fast. The pizza chain wants to hire 20,000 new employees for its restaurants for a variety of roles, including delivery.

The company said that in "most cases" applicants can be interviewed and start the same day.

Domino's (DPZ) announced last week it was hiring 10,000 employees as people shift their eating habits to takeout or delivery amid restrictions surrounding the growing coronavirus pandemic.

 

Ken Krug

14 Days Ago

Beware though, the eating of too much pizza and falling into a pizza coma.. sometimes it doesn’t take much.. the opposite of being in a meditative state. Delivering it though I think you’ll be fine.

 

Carol Cottrell

13 Days Ago

Here’s a free, highly rated app, that I used to use when I was just starting meditation. It’s fantastic.

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/oak-meditation-breathing/id1210209691

But more important than meditation, is to stop focusing on what is throwing you into the bushes! Stop giving your attention to this virus. Stop watching the news and reading disturbing threads.You already know that you have to self isolate and wash your hands. You don’t have to hear all the latest terrifying news. I recommend that you distract yourself with other, more enjoyable things. You’ve mentioned in the past some of the hobbies that you enjoy. Now is the perfect time to dig into those activities. If you do this, I promise you that you’ll start to feel better :)

 

Edward Fielding

13 Days Ago

Good time to clean the house, clean out the attic, organize, purge, refresh, loose a few pounds, get in better shape.

I'm tackling my messed up Lightroom catalog. Trying to organize, find missing files, deleting crap.

 

Chance Kafka

13 Days Ago

I have been trying to clear my mind, relax, and focus on the now. It is getting hard with people of all types (not here) messaging me how worried they are about everything. I might need to shut my phone off.

One of the best things you could do, Mike, is continue making your art - you are probably locked in a meditative state when you do it anyway. Try not to worry if it will sell or think about what's going on. Just focus on creating and uploading art. Best to try to get your mind off what is going on and try to make the best of the current downtown, like Edward was saying. You are trying to prepare for every worst possible outcome but a lot is out of our control right now. This is not to say don't be prepared are proactive, but for your mental health you need to try to go about your day as normally as you possibly can. Stress and worry is also killer to the immune system. On the flip side, it is okay to have fears and worries and express them rather than bottling them up. Feel free to share your worries here, many of us are very supportive of eachother and give space to share fear.

I am horrible at meditating. I wish I was better. But a big part of it is to just let the thoughts come and go. You spin your wheels if you try to empty your mind because that just brings about a bunch of mind chatter. Just focus on one thought at a time and let it come and go, kind of like you do when you drift to sleep. Don't think of having no thoughts, rather, having peace with and accepting your thoughts. Even if it's a bad or scary thought, let it pass through, and let it fade. Don't fixate, but don't try to make it go away either. I remember when I was a kid, someone would say "don't think about pink elephants!" What happens? ALL you do is think about pink elephants.

 

LEANNE SEYMOUR

13 Days Ago

If nothing else works or you get stuck I can suggest a couple of good books to read in this order....both by Ekhart Tolle - The Power of Now and A New Earth. If you read these books slowly in a fairly homeopathic way (ie in small doses) as I did, you can learn how to connect with your true self and switch off all that mental chatter. It's the egoic self that dwells on the past and worries about the future. The secret or key is to live in the present or in the now.

"The future's a mystery, the past is history and now is a gift; that's why they call it the present"

Good luck with it all Mike and try not to worry too much.

 

Peggy Collins

13 Days Ago

Lots of great suggestions here.

I agree with Leanne's suggestion about reading Ekhart Tolle. Or, in my opinion, maybe even better, is to watch the series of interviews he did with Oprah in 2008 based on his book, A New Earth. I think there are 10 or 11 of them, called chapters on YT. Here's the first one - https://youtu.be/Mz0e9LrOsyk

 

George Robinson

13 Days Ago

I have some sucess with a meditation video that has jelly fish and bong music. YouTube. I use a ipad so that I can feel the bongs. My blood presure was 111 and it is usually 125 to 130.

 

LEANNE SEYMOUR

13 Days Ago

Thanks Peggy for affirming my suggestion. Bottom line though different things work for different people and we are all responsibly in finding what works for us. For me it was and felt vitally important to read The Power of Now first......which made me feel euphoric and uplifted in the end. I felt drawn then to read A New Earth and found that a very challenging and confronting read given that it touched on ego as much as it did, but in the end I found that very helpful especially when reading the last couple of chapters. I also over time watched some of Tolle's video but really found reading his two books enough for me as it helped me to let go of a lot of my thinking patterns that blocked me from my spiritual practices that I already partook of. In reality Tolle's guidance can help anyone in enhancing their personal spiritual connections regardless of religion, faith or belief.

By the way I read these books in 2012-13 around the time a close family member had died and this helped me with grief and letting go. .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKpmXhGVMxI

 
 

Peggy Collins

12 Days Ago

This morning the yoga studio I normally go to (which had to close temporarily) kindly posted a link for online yoga classes, meditation and breathing exercises (Pranayama) - https://www.yogagrace.ca/online-classes

Feel free to donate if you can afford it or would like to show your support and appreciation. Hopefully they can re-open the studio when things settle down.

There is also a link to live classes held on Facebook and Instagram at the bottom of the screen at the link I posted above.

One of the owners of the studio (Engel) just returned from Bali where he was teaching Pranayama (breathwork). Any breathwork is a great way to calm the nerves and strengthen the lungs.

 

Joy McKenzie

12 Days Ago

Lovely! Thanks so much, Peggy! :)

 

Peggy Collins

12 Days Ago

No problem, Joy! Enjoy!

 

LEANNE SEYMOUR

11 Days Ago

Nice link Becky.....will share on FB!

 

Dave Bowman

11 Days Ago

In a word - Headspace. Download the app, it'll guide you through it. It's not about stopping thought, it's about being in the moment.

 

Gail So

11 Days Ago

there are some pretty great audible books that will guide you through, as the author voice matches well with the content too!

 

Andrew Pacheco

11 Days Ago

You don't necessarily have to sit down and start meditating. Certain activities can be forms of moving meditation. Tai Chi would be an obvious one but other's could be:

A walk in nature

Knife or hatchet throwing

Fly fishing

Juggling

Archery

 

Sergio Florez Alonso

11 Days Ago

Hi Mike,

Whatever you are, things Will happen the same, so keep calm, which is usually better :-)

There are some meditation courses that i can recommend you, they are free and they are all over the world and the info is in the link below.

https://www.dhamma.org/en/index

 

Joy Bradley

11 Days Ago

When I was in art college I meditated every day.
I sat on the floor in the lotus position and did a lot of deep breathing.
Inhale through your nose exhale through your mouth. Close your eyes, play soft music and clear the mind.
It takes awhile to get yourself into the mind, body connection,once you do you, will feel more relaxed etc..
I teach at a wellness facility, I teach a lot of deep breathing exercises with the movements. I teach AiChi in the water....
You may have to do some deep breathing and stretching exercises first, then sit down and go into the meditation process.
You are on the right track, I would stretch slow, breathe and practice that everyday, once you are more connected to the relaxation and stretching the meditative part might come easier.
Good luck, let us know how it's going.

Thank you for all you do in the Community of FAA!

Joy Bradley
DiNardo Designs

 

Lisa Kaiser

11 Days Ago

When I clean my house and studio, I also clean out my mind. I allow a lot of mega negative thoughts and then I release them out the windows.

 

Michael Rodrick

7 Days Ago

Try deep breathing by itself. You'd be amazed at the level of relaxation if you do it properly. You don't need "instructions" or classes, no books, no audios, or anything else. Breathing alone will "empty your mind" if you allow it to. You need a totally quiet environment with no distractions. Obviously a big ask if you have family members. This is done lying on your back & totally relaxing your muscles so you feel like a ragdoll. When you breathe, you must breathe from your abdomen, not your lungs & do it slowly. You've heard it before; in your nose & out of your mouth. If you're doing it properly, your abdomen & stomach will expand before your lungs. You'll know when it really begins to kick in & it doesn't take long if you concentrate only on your breathing. If you want to kill stress,it's this easy. No lotus positions,which causes muscle contraction & is the last thing you want. Your body relaxes much easier totally extended rather than sitting in a position that can force you to shift your weight & take your concentration away from your breathing. Try it; you'll like it. You'll also save money by not buying audios or instruction sources. We make things WAY too complicated to be part of a trend & be able to say "I meditate" rather than the simplest & just as effective method. JUST BREATHE! But do it properly.

 

Mike Savad

7 Days Ago

i find in general i can't do nose breathing without getting dizzy. i have to do it by mouth and its usually not meditate at that point. and if i'm in bed, i'll fall asleep.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Hi Mike. It's hard to be calm right now, I understand. It's in our nature to want a certain amount of control over life, but that's hard at the moment. Meditation might not be your thing, and that's okay. I've lost motivation to use most of my normal coping strategies, as I am very stressed. I started my first emergency room job this past summer, so you can imagine.

However, you can focus on what you can control and ways to stay healthy. Vitamins, some sort of exercise, yoga.... You are not helpless, you are not cut off from the world, you are not alone.

Every couple of days I try to add one small thing to my new routine. I started taking vitamins every morning. Tomorrow I will start using resistance bands every afternoon. A couple days of success in doing that I will add daily Bible study. Don't worry if meditation doesn't work, find your own baby steps.

I'm sure we'll all have a new appreciation for the little things in life!

 

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