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Rich Franco

5 Days Ago

Pinterest-the Grand Experiment

Hello to All!

As a "verified" slacker, I've been adding images to Pinterest for a couple of years or so, but really, not in any organized fashion. Usually when I think of it or I see the word "Pinterest" someplace. I've heard both good news and bad news about using Pinterest to drive more buyers to my Pixels site and thought, what the heck, ain't going anywhere soon! Let's do this.

Here's the Purpose: To be able to verify/evaluate the "effect" of uploading images to Pinterest over a specified time period and with a substantial number of images uploaded daily!

Here's the Numbers: Over a 30 day period, upload, on average, 10 images/day, somedays a bit more.

Here's the Results: Not so good, didn't get no gooder after a month!

So today, I have 2,305 pins on my site, Rich Franco Cars, and maybe 400 new images since I started. I began to upload 10 images a day on Feb. 25th and stopped around the end of March, 27th-28th. At the beginning, and for days before, I recorded my "Visitors" count and established a strong average, for the month of Feb., 1238.92 visitors/day. That was the baseline prior to the upload Jamboree!

At the end of this process, 3/27 or so, gave it another week before I checked the numbers. On April 3rd, checked the Visitor count once again and It POPPED ALL THE WAY TO 1240!!! A GRAND TOTAL IMPROVEMENT of 1.08 visitors!

Take Away: Using Pinterest to drive eyeballs to your own FAA/Pixels site is not worth the effort in my estimation. Possibly spending MORE TIME, pinning others stuff "might" help, but I doubt it. There's been talk here that Pinterest has changed stuff and no longer provides that "roadway" back to our sites and I think this confirms it.

Uploading 10+ images/day, over 30 days seems to be a fair test of this theory. In fact, checking today, the last 4 days new average is 893, not the right direction.....

What say you?

Rich

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Edward Fielding

5 Days Ago

I pin my blog articles. Second largest traffic generator after Facebook to my blog https://www.dogfordstudios.com/

Keep in mind raw views is not important.

What is important is the quality of the views.

Pinterest is a visual platform for people (mainly women) decorating their homes, making wish lists, collecting things they love. It's more targeted because it's self-selective.

If you are simply pinning your images, you are not maximizing the impact. Try creating more eye-catching pins that make people want to click on them to learn more.

 

Edward Fielding

5 Days Ago

My top pins (non-paid promotions):

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/349310514856357448/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/349310514856322586/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/282249101636652144/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/420312577730884587/

Woman are on pinterest by far more than men. Woman are shoppers. Give them stuff to shop for - home decor, wedding gifts, Christmas gifts. Hobbyists like car buffs spend their money on their cars, not so much on decor. Concentrate on the stuff you have for home decor, food, travel.

 

Jim Hughes

5 Days Ago

I found Pinterest to be basically a plague upon humanity and especially on photographers. It sucks up Google searches but delivers nothing but junk pages where people pin images without attribution. I even found one guy who'd copied my b&w photo, tinted it, retitled it and posted it as his own. Pinterest generated absolutely zero traffic for me.

 

Edward Fielding

5 Days Ago

As with any tool, you have to figure out it's uses and how to use it. Just saying something doesn't work is rather silly since it's one of the most popular sites online.

Men are from Mars, Women are making their shopping lists on Pinterest.

Another top pin - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/282249101634342725/

Another one - promote the brand - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/571464640213083164/

 

When I look at my Google Analytics page, Pinterest contributes 9% of my total website traffic. It also ranks very high in engagement rate and average engagement time average per session.

I'm not an expert on Pinterest, but I "think" it works much like Google. I know with Google you need to be around a lot longer than 30 days before you start showing in search results. I am going to assume that Pinterest works in a similar fashion?

From my point of view, it doesn't cost me anything to post and if it drives my search engine results, I'm good with that.

 

Edward Fielding

5 Days Ago

A whopping 74 outbound clicks on this one - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/2674081017871071/

Must be the handsome guy in the pin. Drives the women cra cra!

Every link that feeds back to your artwork is part of your marketing funnel.

If you are not getting a lot of action on a pin you think is a winner - try spending $30 promoting it kick it into gear. Maybe it will push you into the winner's circle.

 

Rich Franco

5 Days Ago

Edward,

Since the majority of my Pinterst images are mostly cars, probably not the item that women shoppers are looking for, unless Fathers Day is coming....(hint,hint).....

Chicago,

I've been on Pinterest for a few years now, not 30 days....

Rich

 

Rich

I read your post. Flooding Pinterest with images over 30 days isn't going to work the way you might expect. That is if Pinterest works like Google.

 

R Allen Swezey

5 Days Ago

To me, Pinterest is merely a digital scrapbook for women.

They are interested enough in my images, to pin them....and that is often.

But that's it .


Edit:

I know that we will be hearing from Matthias soon


 

Umberto Barone

5 Days Ago

@Edwards: how do you tag multiple images in the same pin?

 

Roy Erickson

5 Days Ago

I have a pinterest account - I haven't looked at it in years because it never did anything for me. Mostly because I have no real clue how to use it - and if you get technical on me - just forget it. I am lucky to be able to upload here.

 

Rick Wiles

5 Days Ago

I hear you Roy, when it comes to the tech, I know a lot about board games. Someday I'm gonna find me a ten year old with a cell phone to explain social media marketing (if that's even the right term) to me so I can increase my sales.

 

Jim Hughes

5 Days Ago

@Rick Wiles, the barrier isn't so much a lack of knowledge as a lack of interest, and speed.

Many have spent time learning the games at Twitter, Instagram Facebook and Pinterest, and eventually realized that payoff takes a huge amount of "activity". If you enjoy that activity and can do it quickly, maybe you'll do it every day and get sales in return. But if you don't enjoy it and can't whip out a dozen posts with 2 thumbs while you're riding a bike in traffic, you'll probably decide it's not going to be your thing.

 

David King Studio

5 Days Ago

I used to get a lot of traffic from Pinterest, then something changed at the beginning of the year and it dropped to near zero in a short time. I feel no motivation to bother with it anymore, my newer pins don't even get picked up by Google.

 

Jim Hughes

5 Days Ago

I'm thinking that Pinterest will go down the same road as FB and IG: it's called Pay To Play. Whatever form of exposure we're thinking we can get from them, they'll find a way to charge for it.

Organic reach is in its end days.

 

Chuck Staley

5 Days Ago

I'm not a fan. It seems like a total waste of time.

 

Rich Franco

5 Days Ago

Chicago,

Yes, that was the purpose of this "test"....to see what effect this might have on "visits" to my Pixel site...

Seems like this agrees with most of the responses. Other places to "invest" time.....

Rich

 

Bonnie Colgan

5 Days Ago

Thank you Rich for the thread. You were the first artist to respond to a question i had when i first joined FAA and as such always enjoy your informative posts. Now that i have a greater number of images posted, i have been focusing on best ways to market and you've nailed my suspicions about Pinterest. Thank you for sharing your time in the experiment, as you spared me the time which is becoming for valuable by the day....and also, agreeing with the other artist comments above. Still exploring and appreciating the opportunities to dialogue here about the issues. And again...always appreciate your comments on my work... negative or positive.

 

Rick Wiles

5 Days Ago

Yeah Jim, I guess I'm in deep doodoo when it comes to marketing then cause I not only lack the knowledge, but also the interest, which makes speed a nonissue. A few years ago I gave coding a try, and after a few months my wife found me huddled in a dark corner, crying uncontrollably, with my thumb in my mouth. I don't know how anybody can get into that. Guess I'm just going to have be happy that I have some talent as an artist (least I hope I do) and there is a company like FAA where I can showcase it and make some decent sales along the way.

 

Rich Franco

5 Days Ago

Bonnie,

Mom, is that you??? LOL! Thanks, and like others here, glad to help when we can. Always open answering any questions!

Rich

 

Jim Hughes

5 Days Ago

Rick, I wrote code for 25 years, and I don't have the interest in SM either. Not that I haven't tried... but it just seemed to be all push and no pull.



 

Peggy Collins

5 Days Ago

I'm giving it a serious try. I'll let you know my results!

 

Rich Franco

1 Day Ago

Peggy,

How are you "verifying" the results, like I did with "views/visitors"?

Rich

 

Peggy Collins

1 Day Ago

Sales, baby, sales!

But I haven't got a legitimate start yet. I managed to get my account suspended by putting a link in where a picture was supposed to go (or something dumb like that...poof! went my account over some silly little mistake.) It's reinstated now. Then I spent some time finding some good mock-ups so that I can create pins from scratch and not worry about having my high-res work ripped off. And now I'm struggling with smart objects in Photoshop to use the mock-ups. Meanwhile I'm doing the 100 day challenge (I'm on day 76) so most days I don't have much spare time. And I keep getting commissions from a cat lady who seems to have an endless supply of cats whose portraits she wants done, lol! BUT it will get done, and soon!

 

Rich Franco

1 Day Ago

Peggy,

100 Day Challenge??? What are y7ou doing in your "spare time".....???

Rich

 

Mike Savad

1 Day Ago

as i've said in the past, pinterest is a time waste, hard to use, hard to find things. and my stats have been broken for months. emailing them was pointless, each one passed the buck to the next guy. i put stuff there as a just in case, but considering i can't add text any more and its hard to find. i don't care about that site at all.

all my links go to pinterest for everything i look for. and either the page isn't there, its just a graphic with no link, or the link goes to someone else's page, or you can't find it on the page. i wish the site would just go away. and without the stats working, i can't even tell if people are looking at anything there. i can see it if they are clicking to my website, but i get so few hits there, 1 if i'm lucky per day.

pinterest is a place for craft projects and virtual hoarders.

----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Peggy Collins

1 Day Ago

Rich, still also trying to get lots of exercise...like two-hour walks most days, etc. etc.

Mike, I learned long ago to try things for myself. Not everyone's experience is the same. People are into home decorating these days so I think it's a great opportunity. I regret not buckling down to it a year ago but it is what it is.

We shall see...

 

Lois Bryan

1 Day Ago

Hey Rich? Keep in mind: timing. If your beginning numbers reflected winter / nasty weather for those of us in the Northern Hemisphere ... maybe end of March, spring, would have meant folks were outside picking daffodils. I know my sales here nose dive in spring until the bugs and humidity and heat drive everyone back inside to their air-conditioning. Just a thought.

I've never put much stock in Pinterest either ... I'm there ... and I post stuff there consistently (both mine and anybody else's that I like) ... but heaven only knows if it does any good.

There are so many variables that we can guess at and even more that we can't.

I like Edward's idea of posting blog pages ... must try that.

 

Mike Savad

1 Day Ago

i think i have well over a 100 mike savad boards that other people made. but i can't say i have an uptick on sales from any of those images they have in there. one image that has never sold ever, when we still had those little stats on the image page - for pinterest, i think it said 10,000. no rhyme or reason, and i can't find it on that site and never sold it. i think its seen, i used to get a bunch of views, but without stats the site is pointless. but i send things there and look at goog to see if i got anything from there and i usually don't.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

Mike Savad

1 Day Ago

i think the pinterest crowd moved to tik tok, and that became their thing.


----Mike Savad
http://www.MikeSavad.com

 

James McCormack

1 Day Ago

I have only recently become a premium member and started uploading new work. Since July last year I have been using Twitter three times a week and Pinterest twice. Drove a lot of traffic to my local site.

As I upgraded my FAA account I can now install Google Analytics. Still struggling with it but it does show me (in less than a week) that about 20% of my traffic comes from Pinterest and 70% from Twitter. So it looks like it's worth my while continuing with Pinterest.

 

Rich Franco

1 Day Ago

James,

Good info and good luck!

Rich

 

John Haldane

10 Hours Ago

I pin a lot, have only 100 followers, rarely get "repinned" by others, and mostly find my images stolen by Russians and Chinese. I honestly don't think it is worth it. I even followed another thread here that says to repin others and I repinned scores of images over a few months. I never saw even one of mine mentioned as being repinned by anyone in that thread. It doesn't mean it didn't happen, just that I got no indication that it did.

I don't use Twit or Fakebook because of their censorship. Twit is also terrible about removing DMCA requests; they even require you have a Twit account to file a DMCA request and that, itself, is a violation of the law. Fakebook is very fast and efficient in that regard. So is Pinterest.

I'll keep posting to Pinterest because it takes almost no time and who knows if it does anything positive? My pins do sometimes show up in Google image searches (and TinEye, though less often).

But the bottom line is that my sales have not been effected in the least by leaving Fakebook and Twit or by joining Pinterest. I basically agree with Jim Hughes' comment above.

 

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