Scientists from the University of Ottawa proposed a new optical element that could turn their "ideas into reality by dramatically miniaturizing optical devices, potentially impacting many of the applications in our lives." (https://phys.org/news/2021-06-goodbye-camera-miniaturized-optics-counterpart.html). They proved the concept experimentally. It is far from being a practical device. But this is just the first paper. I envision an explosion of work by leading scientists and companies doing cameras and cell phones. Watch out for new designs for ordinary and Pro cameras and mobile phones!
It will be interesting to see who comes up with the first practical application. More important, how long will it be before small sensor technology catches up to the point of being able to handle all that data to the point of clarity of standard lenses & sensors?
It's interesting but kind of academic since most photogs don't really fully exploit the possibilities of what they have. In addition, it's generally something else about an image that makes it desirable....content, angle, light and editing. You can imagine a gigapixel image with a huge dynamic range, but could you actually print or display it? If you could, so what. If it goes beyond the ability to human eyes to see the improvement, is it really an improvement?
About 1/3 of what I've sold came from my phone, not even a new one at that. It's in my pocket now, ready to be used. Until somebody comes up with a better idea for content, it seems like the real world can only use so much technology aimed at an image.
I've rarely felt that it was either the size or weight that made the difference. If I have my "big" camera, I use it, otherwise, sometimes my phone is there, so I use that. I'm open to the possibility of a small, super-pixel camera, but I don't think it's what makes an image work, since the ability to reproduce or perceive images does reach a limit.
sounds neat on paper, but they have to make a physical object before i'm impressed.
i remember reading about a new radical idea, a dvd that could hold like terabytes of data. they would take one disk and place like a 100 layers of dye on it. and the player would read and write through all the layers. they built it. but it failed after the above lights ate away at those layers making the disk useless.
so in terms of this, i need them to build it and then i'll see.
but if it works, i would love to have a great camera in a phone, or make the SLR lighter. better zooms etc. the sizes of the images though makes me wonder how big they would be.
Severe limitations of Lytro technology were clear from the very beginning. They tried to REPLACE existing optical elements in cameras.
The new technology from Canada is different. They are trying to COMPRESS the empty space between lenses, between lenses and sensors, etc. To achieve that, scientists are ADDING new optical elements between lenses, between lenses and sensors, etc. Current lenses and sensors are staying (for now). The idea itself is brilliant.
"What we really need is a camera that does not turn into a lazy turd as my newest one has. "
Mine is so lazy that it persistently refuses to tell me where to point it.
Truthfully, I think some of our terrific digital gadgets have gotten to the point where real world consequence of their performance numbers have exceeded the ability of humans to perceive the difference. When the image is better than the eye can see or that the printer can print, what difference does it make whether it has a billion pixels or a trillion pixels? I have no doubt that some phone maker will produce a camera that's better than the best Hassalblad, but, so what?
If you say so, Yuri. I'll wait and see. Until there's a product for it, and it's not just a thought on paper, I'm not getting too excited. Lytro was a company that had a product and still failed to do what everyone was claiming they would.
I worked in physics, specifically in optics, for many years. For me, it is an exciting new idea in one particular area, where there were no new ideas for hundreds of years. I will follow the development to see how and when it will turn to practice.
And let's say they do make this development a reality. Let's say the new Samsung phone comes out (or Apple) and now these SLR killers are in the hands of everyone. The average person can pinch or expand their phone screen and zoom in and there is no to little Pixelation like there is now..
Let that sink in...
I will be in line for it as well and if you thought selling your are got hard wait for that leap forward. The only thing making a photographer like us better is our experience and the will to get up at ungodly hours to be their at dawn... Darn it, I liked sleeping in and Floyd won't be getting as much time on the green. 😀
We are talking here about cameras just because it is an FAA site. Possible areas of new technology applications are much broader. They include microscopes, telescopes, periscopes, spy equipment, and other devices with optical components. I'm not sure about an expansion outside a visible part of the spectrum, but that is also possible.