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David Manlove

3 Days Ago

A New Work, Would You Care To Critique? Is It Printable?

This is a new work I recently uploaded. It is a new direction (pun maybe intended) for me in digital abstract work (not necessarily new but different) and kind of in response to another thread recently about open source / free image manipulation software.

This was done in GIMP 2.10.24. The droplets are a brush stroke selection from the GIMPressionist menu, and the art itself is derived from another piece I did some time ago, called Wave to Van Gogh. It was admittedly a happy accident because my intention was to explore how to achieve more realistic (broad) brush strokes and happened upon the droplet selection and decided to try it. Then, I bump mapped it to simulate a mild 3D effect of paint on a textured substrate.

Would FAA print it? Is this a good technique or a useless embellishment? (since it's really digital and not actually painted)

I also do it to define edges to make the image appear sharper.

I personally like it, but would a buyer even care? (Not that that would necessarily change my mind about using the technique)

The entire piece was sort of an "Ah ha" moment. Learn as we go I guess. But, as often happens with me, I'm somewhat challenged to reproduce the "look" again. Although, I've uploaded one other droplets piece that turned out well.

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Val Arie

3 Days Ago

David - I like it! It looks to me like it would print - there doesn't seem to be any wierd digital artifacts or whatever you call that stuff.

I think it is very pretty and would make a great blue abstract piece. The big question is can you repeat the process? Sometimes I do stuff like that but then forget how I got the end result.

 

L A Feldstein

3 Days Ago

I like the movement and color choices. Perfect title, also

 

Roger Swezey

3 Days Ago

A truly stunning image

To me, it goes beyond movement....It's the ENERGY, I find striking.

I like the title also.........But maybe the singular, "School"

 

Peggy Collins

3 Days Ago

I like it very much, David! Great fluid movement and colors overall. I clicked on it to enlarge sections and thought your use of texture throughout the piece was excellent. I would've commented except I can't seem to sign into Pixels...or maybe it's your artist's website.

I agree with Roger about the title. I don't think there would be a problem with printing.

 

David Bridburg

3 Days Ago

I like it. It is a newer digital variation on AbEx. It is effective.

 

Scorpion Design

3 Days Ago

I love it and would feature it ( in fact I have done). I think also it would print. In fact the real question is not whether it would print (almost anything on a screen will do); it is will it be printed. I believe the printers are sensible people and the criteria for say a photograph would be different to that of an abstract.
My only question about it is is it objective or non objective abstract art. Personally I like it so much that I would probably accept it under both!
Re title whatever the answer; it probably would not a good idea to change it now.

 

Douglas Brown

3 Days Ago

Nicely done David.

A blue fin tuna will come along soon and eat them all up Lol.

I agree with Roger on the School over Schools, but would go further with School Life.

 

David Manlove

2 Days Ago

Thanks for the feedback so far.

I will go with the title change to "School" but as Douglas suggests - School of Life? I assume that is what you meant? I really like that too.

@David B - forgive me... AbEx?

@Scorpion - I didn't think about changing the title will break back-links that I've put out there already. Oh well, now it's too late (I think). And, I always (in my case at least) have had a tough time categorizing my abstracts as objective or non-objective. When I submit to groups I usually take my chances with either being accepted, or not.

 
 

Douglas Brown

2 Days Ago

Hi David, i meant simply School Life as in, a moment of time in the life of a school of fish, but School of Life works as does School Days ?

 

David Manlove

2 Days Ago

@Douglas - I understand now. We could go on and on with options like "Back to School" too. I will keep it as is for now but thanks for the suggestions.

I did have to re-do some posts and links that were broken when I changed the title to "School."

 

Carmen Hathaway

2 Days Ago

 

Vibrant, creative piece, David.

Especially like the bump map effect.
Normal, & displacement maps are another fav of mine.

For anyone wanting to look into this: https://www.pluralsight.com/blog/film-games/bump-normal-and-displacement-maps

With Photoshop doing away with 3D capabilities, creating maps is still a breeze with this free app, Materialize - Easy Texture Creator.

Their video is also terrific for demonstrating how these types of mapping work.

 

Scorpion Design

2 Days Ago

David I agree that deciding whether abstracts are objective or non-objective is sometimes very difficult.

 

Barbara Corvino

2 Days Ago

I don't know how you got it, I don't know this kind of art.
But I can tell you about what I see, I really like this blue whirlwind, it just reminds me of a school of those little fishes that form patterns in the blue of the sea.
The only thing that does not convince me is the elongated shape of the image, I would see it better in a 3: 2 ratio, eliminating a part on the right side, that seems to distract from the main vortex. What do you think?

 

David Manlove

2 Days Ago

@Barbara - Fish swirling in a school in a deep blue sea is what this reminded me of as well and thus the title.

As for composition, I see what you're talking about where cropping off the right side might give more balance. I started this work as a full circle with the vortex in the center (derived from a previous piece I did called Wave to Van Gogh) but as you observed, it turned out unbalanced and since I have routinely done square format digital swirl art, I wanted to do something a little different and asymmetrical and cut off the entire bottom half, especially since the more interesting stuff seemed to be occurring in the top half, and, I'm a fan of "wide" format art.

 

Peggy Collins

2 Days Ago

Thanks for adding the FAA link, David...I just commented on it. Sorry about the broken link...I didn't realize you'd already posted links to your work.

I disagree about changing the composition...personally I wouldn't change a thing.

@Carmen, thanks for posting that video. I'm going to look into this. Never even heard of this technique before and I really like the effect on David's work. Coolio - something new to try!

 

Mike Savad

2 Days Ago

Its a little stretched in spots, but it should print.


----Mike Savad

 

Roger Swezey

2 Days Ago

When I first saw this image, I thought of cropping the right.

Because that is what "The Rules" dictate.


But, then I realized that by making it a more appropriate image, it would destroy the very thing, that to me, makes it so compelling.

It's POWERFUL, DYNAMIC ENERGY.

The insistent flow on the left, versus, the discordant pattern on the right.


KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS
.

 

Carmen Hathaway

2 Days Ago

 

;) ... truth be told, Peggy — kinda had you in mind as I knew you'd l-o-v-e to know about these methods & enjoy implementing them.


Been into mapping for a few years now as I got into 3D modeling. Just as useful in 2D.

And, as the saying goes, "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle."

Glad David brought the bump map thang up — great discussion shtuff.

 

Roger Swezey

2 Days Ago

David, Carmen,

RE:....."Bump Mapping, etc."


I came to this thread, to discuss the image I was presented.

Completely ignorant of the technical aspects brought up.

Now my interest has been peaked


SO,I watched the video. trying to get the 86 year old brain around what this whole thing is all about

Tomorrow, when I have more time, I plan to download the program.

And begin to play around with it.


Wonder if I can applied it to the Next Edit This Challenge ??.

 

David Manlove

1 Day Ago

@Carmen & Roger - I'm less inclined to talk tech when it comes to generating digital art but as they say, "the more you know....." Because, honestly I'm still learning. But, bump mapping has become a very useful thing for me because it not only provides a more visually realistic 3D "bump" simulating the topographical paint brush effects on a surface, but also lends itself to sharpening an image by defining edges more crisply, or at least the illusion of sharpening. There are a myriad of "canned filters" for that of course.

@Mike - I've often wondered if it provides enough clarity for FAA to print though, hence my question. Thanks for chiming in, that gives me confidence it does.

@Roger & Peggy - I don't intend to change anything. There's always room for improvement but there's also the danger of overworking it. Trust me, I've done the latter often. There is such a thing as a digital round file...

 

Peggy Collins

1 Day Ago

@ Carmen - well thank you so much for thinking of me. This is the first I've ever heard of bump mapping. I watched the video. I'll have to explore this further...

 

Scorpion Design

1 Day Ago

Carmen; else where I upload the whole set of maps. In effect there are two different set depending on the work flow you (actually the renderer ) use. I have always hope that FAA would allow you to upload series of map, and then sell them as royalty free images. As prints they would not necessarily work, except may be the normal map. Normal maps can have a certain artistic appeal. I am interested to know which software you use ; apart from Materialize if any.

 

Carmen Hathaway

23 Hours Ago

 

So as not to derail David's thread here, see my topic on mapping in the discussion forum.

 

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